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4 Fast Food Ingredients Way Worse than Horse Meat

Anthony Gucciardi
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February 4th, 2013
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fastfoodhorsemeat 265x165 4 Fast Food Ingredients Way Worse than Horse MeatAs you’re likely aware, Burger King UK recently admitted that its famous fast food symbol the Whopper (and its other burgers) were actually made using horsemeat. In an admission that came just hours after denying the presence of horse meat in the burgers, the secret ingredient has been broadcast on media stations worldwide as a breaking news piece. But what about the ingredients we know exist in many fast food creations and are actually far more concerning?

The fact that Burger King products contain horsemeat and the company denied the link to consumers before being forced to admit it due to DNA evidence reveals a few different things. First of all, it sheds even more light on how fast food eaters truly have no idea what they’re eating — a revelation that will be further revealed by exposing the known chemicals in these products. Secondly, it shows that Burger King either:

  • Possibility A: Genuinely does not care about consumers and has denied the existence of horsemeat in their products as to not incite profit loss and media turmoil.
  • Possibility B: Burger King genuinely has no idea what its own products contain. Whether it be horsemeat or other ingredients, they are honestly clueless.

It is debatable which of these possible scenarios is worse, however they both are concerning. Especially when you know what Burger King is telling you about. And that leads to the third thing that the horsemeat revelation tells us: considering the highly toxic chemicals and other admitted ingredients inside fast food products, a lack of true ingredients listing may mean an even more disturbing list of additives. As for what we do know, however, here are 4 fast food ingredients that are way worse than horsemeat:

1. Electronic Cigarette Filler, Synthetic Laxative

You may have fond memories of enjoying a Wendy’s Frosty, but the lengthy and gut-wrenching list of chemicals that create what is labeled as a ‘milkshake’ contain more than one bad surprise. Wendy’s Frosty contains the typical ensemble of fast food components such as traditionally-GMO corn syrup, artificial flavorings, and a list of thickening agents. Of the 14 ingredients it takes to create the fast food top seller, one chemical stands out. Contained in the Coffee Toffee Twisted Frosty, a laxative chemical and electronic cigarette filler known as propylene glycol is among the 25 new ingredients that make up this special Frosty.

Peer-reviewed research available on PubMed reveals that propylene glycol has been associated with neurotoxic effects in children and a reduction in the permeability of the blood brain barrier. Propylene glycol is also used ”as the killing and preserving agent in pitfall traps, usually used to capture ground beetles.” It just so happens to even be illegal in cat food.

Wendy’s Toffee Twisted Frosty also contains mercury-filled high-fructose corn syrup.

2. Flour-Bleaching Agent Used in Yoga Mats, Foamed Plastics

If you were to use this yoga mat ingredient to produce food in another nation like Singapore, you would face fines up to $450,000 and 15 years in prison. In the United States, you can charge money and market the creation as the McRib. And that’s exactly what McDonald’s did. The McDonald’s McRib not only contains GMOs, deadly chemicals, and harmful fillers,  but an ingredient known as azodicarbonamide. Banned in Australia, Europe, and Singapore, azodicarbonamide is used in the creation of foamed plastics like yoga mats.

The troubling chemical is one of the 70 ingredients that compromise the ‘pork’ in the McRib sandwich.

3. Silicone Breast Implant Filler

It really seems like McDonald’s is attempting to utilize a long list of banned ingredients in order to create its world famous fast food cancer bombs. McDonald’s Chicken McNuggets have a reputation as one of the worst food items on the planet for a reason. The so-called ‘meat’ of the nugget is actually made up of 7 different ingredients — not chicken. These include sodium phosphate, safflower oil, wheat starch, dextrose, and a particularly dangerous substance known as autolyzed yeast extract. While not the silicone breast implant chemical, but it is very similar in nature to MSG.

McDonald’s chicken McNuggets are full of surprises for sure, also containing dimethylpolysiloxane. This is the chemical that is used in silicone breast implants and silly putty, or at least will be for a short while longer. Dimethylpolysiloxane is actually being phased out as a breast plant filler due to safety concerns by the industry. It is still used by McDonald’s, however – at least in the US. McNuggets in Britain do not contain some of the dangerous chemicals that are so easily permitted in the US.

4. Chemical Salad

Is choosing the salad at a fast food establishment really the healthier choice? If you follow the marketing campaigns of these corporations, you may believe so. The sad truth, however, is that virtually every item sold in a fast food restaurant is tainted in some way with harsh chemicals and additives. Take McDonald’s ‘healthy’ salads, for example. Not only does the ‘cilantro lime glaze’ and the ‘orange glaze’ used on many of these salads contain propylene glycol (the chemical discussed in #1 as the laxative and electronic cigarette filler), but a medley of others on this list as well.

Two chemicals, however, stand out with the salad. Disodium inosinate, and disodium guanylate both divulge the presence of MSG within the ‘healthy’ salad.

It may seem like old news to some, but the reality is that even ‘healthy’ fast food items are filled with toxic ingredients. Remember, it’s not about the food itself (salad, for example), but what it contains. Until we realize that lettuce may contain more than the eye can perceive, such as pesticides, herbicides, insecticides, preservatives, flavor enhancers, sweeteners, and more, it will be impossible to establish what ‘health’ really means.

About Anthony Gucciardi:
1.thumbnail 4 Fast Food Ingredients Way Worse than Horse MeatGoogle Plus ProfileAnthony is the Editor of NaturalSociety whose work has been read by millions worldwide and is routinely featured on major alternative and mainstream news website alike, including the powerful Drudge Report, NaturalNews, Daily Mail, and many others. Anthony has appeared on programs like Russia Today (RT), Savage Nation, The Alex Jones Show, Coast to Coast AM, and many others. Anthony is also dedicated to aiding various non-profit organizations focused around health and rehabilitation as well as the creator of the independent political website Storyleak

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  • Mary

    I have been allergy tested and nothing was found. That being said, I noticed a few years ago that a strange rash type mark would show up on my upper lip whenever I ate a Wendys Frosty. I quit eating them but decided to have one the other day and lo and behold the rash/mark came back. It has not gone away yet and is now 24 hours old.

  • Johnny Blaze

    Horsemeat is actually pretty healthy for you. Much healthier than beef. Of course, anything that is loaded with chemicals is bad for us. All of our foods are so loaded with crap, it’s a wonder there isn’t a class action against every fast food company in the world. Honestly, how can this continue?? Foods are killing us.

  • FIRKIN X

    Yes, propylene glycol is in Wendy’s Frosty shakes. It is a dangerous substance, but ONLY in large doses. I do not know how much propylene glycol is in a single milkshake, but I doubt it is over 1g/L, which is when it becomes harmful (from the book: The International Programme on Chemical Safety: Basic Analytical Toxicology — 1995 WHO). Our bodies can metabolize propylene glycol with little effort. There are .35 liters in a 12 oz shake. So, 1 g/L is a very, very small quantity for a 12 oz shake. You would have to drink 100+ shakes a day to make these shakes harmful to your body, when it comes to propylene glycol.

    You should have no problems drinking one or two of these a month. Daily=no.

    I’d say the real issue with propylene glycol would be in the factories where they make it. As factory runoff from factories that use this chemical sometimes ends up in our water table. When it gets in water, it removes oxygen from water (biochemical oxygen demand), making it difficult for fish and so forth to breathe which could lead to a bunch of dead fish/sea life within hundreds of miles from the factory at hand.

    The funny thing is that BP dropped thousands of gallons of oil dispersant, that contained propylene glycol, in the gulf after the Deepwater Horizon incident. Their ‘scientists’ are political lobbyists who have one goal: to push more and more oil and chemicals into our commerce system. F BP.

    Peace.

  • Ronald R. Johnson

    I knew there was a good reason I quit eating McDonalds and the other fast food. They should all be put in jail too!

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  • Jennifer

    Thank you for your article. One thing you missed totally with the problem of horse meat is the phenylbutazone which is given to horses in the US. The FDA has banned its use for horses used for human consumption since it is a carcinogen. There is no withdrawal period according to the FDA testing standards. So…I cannot agree with your article. Please do research before you lead people astray. Thanks.

  • Lee

    Thanks, Cate!!!

    • Cate

      I'm surprised it let me actually post it. It didn't like my email address or my real first name the first few times I tried to post. I didn't see any Caitlyns above so I can only assume the Natural Society doesn't like me.

  • Cate

    I got as far as the words "propylene glycol" and quit reading. While it is a chemical (*gasp!*) and it may indeed sound scary, and it is admittedly a component in other products (since, you know, that's what all chemicals do), propylene glycol does not have any toxic effects upon consumption. Once it enters the body, it metabolizes to pyruvic acid (a ketone used for energy), acetic acid (which also has a negative connotation but is really vinegar), and/or lactic acid (used in digestion). Even if you consume it at a rate of 10 g/L (a heck of a lot) every day for two years. There is also no sign of fetal or developmental toxicity. Algae can handle 19 g/L without any adverse effects. Daphnia (water fleas) have been tested up to almost 5 g/L without any toxicity.

    The reason that it's banned from being used in cat food is that they are susceptible to an ailment called Heinz body anemia (based on their genetic make-up; not because the law-makers like cats better than people). This ailment is also why cats (and dogs) should not eat onions. Onions are banned in pet food as well soooo… NOBODY EAT ONIONS!

    What's really funny is that propylene glycol is used in almost all dried fruits/food as a humectant (specifically dried coconut). And there's also this sweet table (about uses of propylene glycol in mg/L) which might send the author of the article into a panicked pantry-clearing frenzy:
    Food CategoryUsualMax
    Alcoholic Beverages0.665.88
    Baked goods0.792.44
    Cheese0.070.62
    Chewing gum0.683.00
    Confection, frosting50.7350.86
    Fats, oils0.140.32
    Frozen dairy1.372.13
    Fruit Juice0.490.82
    Gelatins, puddings0.360.69
    Gravies0.490.98
    Hard candy0.721.35
    Meat products0.230.53
    Milk products0.230.38
    Nonalcoholic beverages0.381.24
    Other grains0.010.01
    Poultry0.010.10
    Processed vegetables0.005.00
    Reconstituted vegetables0.060.06
    Snack foods0.020.92
    Soft candy0.891.44
    Sweet sauce3.104.21

    The reason it's in electronic cigarettes is because it's a solvent. That means it's a liquid that dissolves something (a solute). So, it's the liquid that is holding the flavor and the nicotine. While it's terrible that they'd make propylene glycol do this, it's not causing negative effects to the e-cigarette smoker. . Yes, it's in Wendy's Frosty. It's also in almost every other type of ice cream.

    Most of this information comes from HSDB (Hazardous Substances Data Bank).

    Alright, that's enough of my rant. I apologize. Non-scientific people (e.g. the Natural Society) scaring people with science gets me heated. I'm sure there are some bad chemicals in fast food, but I'm also sure there are bad chemicals in other food. And there are some chemicals that we do not know the long-term effects of. I know that fast food is not as good for you and, based solely on the way that it's prepared, has negative effects. That, in itself, should be enough to make people stop and think. Using scare tactics is unnecessary and irresponsible.

  • Mike

    About the author:Anthony is also a founding member of Natural Attitude, a leading developer of super high quality spagyric formulations.

    The three primal alchemical properties and their correspondence in spagyric remedy are:

    Mercury = water elements, representing the life essence of the plant, the very alcohol extract of the plant is the carrier of the life essence.
    Salt = earth element, representing the vegetable salts extracted from calcined ashes of plant body.
    Sulphur = fire element, virtue of plant, representing the volatile oil essence of the plant.

    Sounds healthy to me.

  • Robert Park

    In the past horse meat was a regular part of my diet; it is both tender and tasty and I thought that its removal from the supply chain was due simply to the considerable reduction to horse numbers. Sad to note that it currently has such a bad rap.

  • liam

    No list of sources of information, so that i can pro actively check it out for myself?

  • Liy

    how many Food Producers (big ones) purchasers were from Food background? Those purchasers are really good negotiators that caused the havoc in Food Industry. Every single cent they negotiated, & in the end, do they really compare on quality? Recent trend (3-5years) is all about cost reduction. I will not eat any brands who annouce a cost reduction on purchasing or procurement on 10% or 15% as what else are left beside the high management cost? How many % of Food Ingredients are contributing to the food products?The ingredients are nothing compared to the packaging cost. Everything has a threshold to hold. Sometime, chemicals, electronics are a much profitable industry. Because you will skip your food to buy an I-pad 3 /I-phone 5 but consumers are not willing to pay for healthier food. & the trend of Food Industry procurement getting "good negotiators" from non-food industry-All they know is management have set a KPI to cut cost, so the job is to cut cost. See,"KPI", who set it? Another standard to follow. Bosses of the factories are willing to spend monies on mercerdes, LVs, Mont Blanc but when it came to ingredients, öh, i want a 10% discount.. Yes, how pathetic.. Today is merely horsemeat, more to surprise!

  • Liy

    Consumers always worried when this kind of news being explored but ask yourself again why such a thing happens? With all the standardization on systems, regulations on food, controls what do we all expect? All natural crops are natural but when it came to production, we have all these spec requirement on the level of proteins, carbo, fats, blah blah long list but how do you control a natural crops? Why would melamine case happened in China? If you expect orange juice to remain non separated for 6 months, try at home and see if your juice stand for 1 hour? Because our requirements on taste, long preservation, convenient & of course CHEAP price, what else do you expect. Amazing is when Food Scams happened what consumers usually wants are more tests being conducted. Well, protein % not enough when tested, add melamine ( used in plastic ind) is a simple chemistry theory for non- ethical merchants. And what business in today’s world is maximizing profit, of course no one is going to suffer but ourself. ISO, HACCP , BRC , FDA etc big claps for all these standards as they earn lots of monies to ensure producers find their ways to fit into specifications needed by the auditors. If my good last only 3 days and compared to 1 year, I will choose 3 days.
    This is my opinion.

  • Gerlinde

    Human meat, oh my goodness, Kuldep Kaur..

  • Kuldeep Kaur

    I think the real problem in these days is over population and the greed for more and more money. Now the Burger King is selling the horse meat and a day will come they will sell humans meat also to make more money. So find the cause and not the cure, and all these problems will be solved automatically .

  • dobbie606

    -great info,Prof Anthony, many thanks
    - a mere quibble:
    ''But what about the ingredients …are actually far more concerning?''
    - surely 'disconcerting' is le mot juste? …perhaps not…

  • capt al

    propylene glycol is also a really good antifreeze

    • cass

      YES antifreeze…….does that sound like a good food ingredient to you???

  • Robles

    MR Fact.

    Don’t sold your self to the media, yes organic farming is way superior, but media make it sound that is not, Corporation and TV has been controlling most of Bart simson Ameicans, do you watch TV? I tough so.

    Me just a 17 yr ORGANIC FARMER.

    • dogitydog

      Alrighty then. We can rule out your diet as the cause of your brain damage.

  • Don Randall

    Thanks Anthony! I rarely eat processed foods and follow a mostly plant-based diet, except some organic milk. Although I prefer organic, I can only afford produce, seeds, grains, nuts etc. when the prices are relatively affordable.

  • Doobey

    Not sure if Pasteurized Almonds are in Almond Milk. But i think its just as important to stay away from processed foods ie foods that are far removed from their natural state. a LIQUID form of ALMONDS is highly processed. IMHO (tho i realize you didnt ask for it, just thot i'd throw in my 2 cents anyway. hope you dont mind) – IMHO you shud be just as concerned with how processed a food Almond Milk is. unprocessed and raw (truly raw) is what's easiest for our body to process and best for us; and also has the least amount of additives (non-nutritive, sometimes harmful, agents).

  • Lena

    Honestly, truth is the best policy. Do not lie to me – tell me what is in the the product I am consuming and let me make a choice if I want to consume it or not, but do not hide it – this is America. I for one appreciate Mr. Guciarrdi's article. It states facts which lead me to further conclude that the greatest terrorist attack on America my not be external, but internal in the food industry. Thank you Mr. Guciarrdi for being courageous and writing this article – it was time someone told the truth since it wasn't going to be the food industry. More than shame on the food industry!!!

  • Hannah

    Go to farmer's markets, grow your own food. It's honestly not that hard, and does not lead to a $500 grocery bill. Fast food companies and processed food companies want you to THINK you're saving money but in the end, your medical bills surpass that so-called "$500 grocery bill". Just something to think about.

    • Lorrie M.

      another important thing to know is that if you want to start a garden this year, make sure you get Heirloom seeds that have not been crossed with anything out of the *ordinary*. Unfortunately true heirloom sweet corn is getting harder and harder to find because of cross pollination. GMO corn being grown in a farm field a mile away can cross pollinate your corn if the wind is right. Suddenly your heirloom sweet corn has been crossed with GMO feed corn. But it’s worth growing as many heirloom veggies as you can. there are a lot of very reputable companies that sell and swap seeds with other gardeners. Another benefit of this is that you can save your heirloom seeds for next year. If you buy hybrid seeds from your local store, you may get a nice crop, but the seeds you save from them will grow something completely different from the parent plant which very well may be GMO seeds as well. It’s worth doing a little research before you plant.

  • whoa_there

    Blah blah blah. Everyone should be a Hippie and grow organic rabbit food in the garden or only buy from local farmers and only get meat from butchers and live forever.

    Enjoy your $500 grocery bill. Some of us are on budgets.

    • http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Logician/597033543656569 Finn

      Yeah, but your budget shouldn't require your food to be poisoned.

    • suss

      Yeh really- why is it that you CAN’T AFFORD 500 grocerie bill? food costs keep going up what are you going to do? not eat? eat poisoned food since its cheaper (in the short term); not me i will source out healthy foods local farmers market etc. often times its less expensive and bulk organinc dried beans; share a cow thats humanely raised and split w/ family and friends yada yada yada, its the right thing to do and less expensive- o- ya it requires some planning, thought, and a bit of elbow grease to sourse these things out- if your brain is fried from all the FAKE FOOD/CHEMICALS/POISONS, it’s seems like a daunding task and most will role over demonize an pooh pooh this and go back to eating the PHUD that will lead to cancer/diabetes/heart disease etc. Its so worth the effort because after awile its no effort at all. And it tastes alot better too.

      • johnnyT

        be sure to ask at your farmer's market if they use pesticides and such. Just because it is locally done, does not mean it is safely done. i asked all of the vendors at our local f-market (approx 22 vendors), only one does it without the use of pesticides and such. not pointing fingers, just saying don't assume it's any better than your chain store.

    • Toy Boat

      Well it's a crying shame that good for you food cost an arm & leg while SH!t food costs a dollar. Do you think this is on accident or is the last article about how the food is dumbing us down really truer than true? You know what cost more than organic foods? The monetary cost of treating disease & the emotional turmoil you subject your loved ones to when they watch you die so by all means, eat another 20 PC nugget…..

  • Flygirl_481

    The People have the right to know what they are consuming, and producers of food should oblige to advertise the content of their product. The Consumer has the right to know. Why didn't Burger King state that they sold horse meat? Most food producers use pesticides to grow their crops, this should be stopped considering, there are alternatives, its about the moral principles, How would you like it if I served you up a bowl of Horse chowder, and you didnt know it? The consumers are being lied to, because the suppliers are greedy, manipulative frauds, because they know what they put into their products. Those of you that THINK its fine because their poisons don't exceed the dosage, its people like you that hopefully NEVER open a business.

    • A Fact For You

      No pesticides/herbicides on crops = no mass production. Ask any Ag scientist, or even a local crop farmer. Organic farming can’t feed the world.

  • Anonymous

    What the fuck is wrong with people who write this stuff. Trying to argue that something is dangerous because it’s used in yoga mats, electronic cigarettes or whatever just shows that the author is completely ignorant of scientific realities.

    An additives additional uses have no bearing on the safety of said additive. Just because something is used in industrial cleaning agents does not mean that this additive is dangerous. It may be, but these additional uses have no bearing on this.

    One of the scary chemicals they mention is essentially simethicone, the same stuff I have poured down my gassy infants throat on many a sleepless night. The fact that it is also an industrial defoaming agent, silly putty ingredient and breast implant ingredient is completely irrelevant.

    • Anonymous

      Your a moron!

    • Anonymous

      I was thinking the same thing. I guess we shouldn’t use lemon juice because it is used as a scenting agent in dish washing liquid.

  • http://twitter.com/BuilderBuds @BuilderBuds

    honestly, this article is EXCRUCIATING. if you are concerned about the contents of your food, cook it yourself. case closed. now stop wasting everyone's time.

    • Z…………

      I think that people really don't care what they eat, let them poison themselves. So many information is out on net, paper, TV, radio, and still so many ignorants. Let them eat all this toxins

      • Dixivic

        That is so true, the people who eat this junk don't give a damn what's in it!! Everyone knows that this kind of food is bad for your health in every way possible, so why such a big fuss when it's a different type of meat???

  • Pat

    Are Pastuerized Almonds in Almond Milk??

    • alice

      The almond milk you buy in stores is nothing like home made and yes its full of unnecessary rubbish and made with suspect ingredients. Make your own, 1 cup almonds – 2 or 3 cups of water and a couple of dates, whizz it up and strain if you like. YUM

  • Van Wood

    I think the big issue here is they lied about it. And yes Please read the ingredients. we are killing ourselves with all the processed foods out there And stay away from FAST FOOD!!

  • Mike C

    Im amazed at the stupidity of folks these days. propylene glycol (USP Kosher food grade might I add) is used in all kinds of food! You enjoy your twizlers? Yup, they are in there too. Its a main ingredient in various medications. You have asthma? yeah about that, PG is responsible for saving your life. Its also used in fog machienes. Doctors believe that PG can also help to inhibit various viruses responsible for respratory infections. Long term studies HAVE been done a few decades ago about the long term effects of PG on the body. Don't believe everything you read on the internet kids. Do your research. One more thing to add. just because something is used in the production of products that are not edible does not mean it will harm you. Water is used in the production of…….EVERYTHING! Yet we don't condemn it as being an unsafe chemical. Bad reporting is bad guys.

    • http://arena-studios.com AJ

      Absolutely agree with the above comment. This is just really bad reporting. In biochemistry there's a saying that the dose makes the poison. While we do have to become responsible consumers making such broad statements is just irresponsible. By this author's logic I shouldn't consume anything with iron in it because steel is produced with iron, and thus every time I eat my cereal bowl in the morning it's like putting a gun in my mouth. The zinger is the author's signature, "…an accomplished investigative journalist whose articles have appeared on top news sites and have been read by millions worldwide." and thus the reason why you should be much more responsible Mr. Gucciardi.

      • Noneofyourbeeswax

        The dose makes the poison huh? So a teaspoon of arsenic here, a dollop of strychnine, a pinch of mercury. I should be totally fine.

        If there are toxic chemicals in everything we eat then that's the dose, that's the poison. Bon appetit!

        • simon

          Well yes. Arsenic is found in many foods like tapioca, apples, cherries and peaches. trace amounts of mercury is found in a lot of fresh fish. It's the dosage that matters. There is a safe limit for ingesting almost everything.

    • bert

      Very well put. I know now why I could run so much faster after I had a meal at Burger King. Come on, if you are concerned about horse meat in a burger then we have a major problem with everything we eat. I personally could care less. Bless your heart though. I respect your reporting. Thanx

    • esmerelda

      why would water be condemned as an 'unsafe chemical' DUH!!!!

      • billy

        drink too much water and you die.

        • eileen f

          oh billy for gods sake . you dont die because of waters chemical components…you die because if you drink too much i.e. 6 gallons in the space of half hour…..you dilute the blood so much that it becomes too weakened in concentration…………PLEASE PEOPLE STOP WRITING ON THESE THINGS WHEN YOU DONT HAVE A CLUE WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT

    • Sam

      Did you seriously just try to use Twizlers (the most American, synthetic plastic crap candy) as some kind of proof that an ingredient in it is not unhealthy?

    • phil m

      you CANNOT compare the use of WATER in foods to the use of a chemical like propylene glycol. I have a phD in the field of chemistry and have been studying the world of chemicals and their effects since I was 18 years old. I am now 31. I am guessing you have little knowledge of the harm certain chemicals can have when ingested or inhaled over a longer period of time.
      IF you DID you might consider why with the expansion of the use of chemicals SUCH AS propylene glycol in the manufacturing and preservation of foods has simultaneously seen the epidemic of CANCER taking over the lives of so many people. Do some research. Use your brain and maybe THEN you might see why I feel your comparison of WATER to a chemical like propylene glycol is not only foolish, but a litle embarrassing.

  • JGK

    Possibility C: Genuinely thought it was quality beef sourced in Uk and Republic of Ireland and was ahsafted by it's suppliers (or it's suppliers were shafted by their sources.) I don't know and don't care as I dont consume their products but you need to consider all the possibilities, not just those that suit your argement otherwise you'll appear to be biased.

    • Dixivic

      That is the same as Possibility B: Don't know what is in their food!!!!! I'm vegan so can be sure I'm not eating horse or any other animal for that matter.

  • SymphonicAura

    First off, there's no problem with eating horsemeat, is there? People been doing it for bajillions of years, or at least hundreds. :) As long as it's not been given shots or wormer, what's the issue? Rumor has it, it's much better for people than beef; higher protein and the like. Of course, the other junk brought up in this article is something to ponder on. I don't eat at McDoodles, so no worries for me. I prefer Arby's tater cakes and a coke.
    Blessings, and thanks for the info! :)

    • Anonymous

      As a rancher of horses and knowing the love of them, you obviously don’t know what they can contribute. Hey, let’s slaughter all horses just like the buffalo so there’s none left in the world. You are misinformed. There are so many other ways to provide food in this world.

      • Anonymous

        Well at least someone responding has a brain….I was starting to worry!

        It’s not about whether you care about eating horse meat as a customer. It’s the fact that they lied about it, which allows multiple other corporations to think they can lie about what shit they feed us! And believe me, MANY people would care if they found out they were eating horse meat. It would be similar to finding out that one was eating a dog! Ridiculous. But I’m sure some sickos on here wouldn’t mind that either….

    • http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Logician/597033543656569 Finn

      Potatoes, Canola Oil and/or Palm Oil , Dehydrated Potato, Salt, Corn Flour, Natural Flavoring, Disodium Dihydrogen Pyrophosphate (to Promote Color Retention), Dextrose. So they aren't too bad, but none the less

    • maryelizabeth

      The problem with eating horse meat SymphonicAura is that the horse meat is now tainted with many drugs that prove to cause cancer. The FDA (food and drug) made it illegal to sell horse meat in pet food in Canada because of the drugs horses are given. If it is not good for a dog, surely it isn't good for a human. These drugs were not always around. The biggest one is bute. The FDA states that if the horse is given this only once in his life time, it can not enter the food chain, as it is connected with cancer and many other fatal illnesses. Bute is given to all horses other than wild ones. It is a pain killer and anti-inflammatory, it is the go to drug. I have horses so I know how much it is used with horses. These are the same horses that are being slaughtered for consumption. You can't have a horse without using wormers, it can lead to colic and death. It is impossible to have a horse and never give it bute, until something else that works as well comes out. It just can't happen. So yes there is a problem with eating horse, if you care about your life, health, and that of you
      children.

      • Cat

        Um, cigarettes cause cancer too, last I checked. But they are still legal. Radiation causes cancer too… Um, chemotherapy? Pretty toxic stuff. Oh, and acetaminophen causes liver failure.

        Kellogg nutri-grain bars are natural in UK yet full of crap here in US. Why? UK wouldn’t and/or couldn’t buy them. Know what is in your food, make informed decisions. Like Food Inc. said: We vote with every purchase that we make: it’s all about the Benjamin’s, baby.

        And those of you saying clean eating is expensive or too complicated? Last I checked coronary and gastric bypass surgeries were not too cheap. Shoot, even lipo is pretty traumatic and expensive.

        Oh, another point I recently heard; we can chose to pay now or we can choose to pay later. The only difference? Paying a little more now is more like an investment for quality of life later. A friend of mine recently died: coronary artery disease, diabetes. Obesity. He was 35 years old. He just had a baby ant married the love of his life. RIP J.O.

    • sallyseagull

      Not necessarily. If horse meat has been substituted for beef, it is unlikely that it underwent any inspection or testing to ensure that it was free of veterinary drugs, illegal drugs, or diseased when slaughtered.

      In the case of horse meat being found to have been sold in pre-cooked meals, ground beef patties, etc in the Europe, it is now suspected that many of those animals came from Romania where animal-led carts have now been banned from roads. Many of the rural poor and farmers have traditionally used horses, donkeys and oxen to move their farm produce and products to markets in the cities. Since the ban of animal-led carts on roads has taken effect, millions of animals being sent to the slaughter houses. People in rural areas of Europe rarely have money for vet treatment of their farm animals, so it is unlikely that 100% of these animals were healthy to begin with. And as of Saturday 09 Feb, it has now been disclosed by the French, that some of the horse meat, may actually have been donkey.

      Good reason to be a vegetarian.

    • Tami

      When you buy a burger that is suppose to be an all beef patty and you find out its horse meat there is definitely something wrong with that! its called false advertisement hello!

    • Louis

      you think Arby's tater cakes don't have these same chemicals? Loan me a thousand dollars please. I'll pay you back tomorrow.

  • leslie

    Still no Facebook SHARE button!!! PLEASE add a FB share option. It should really not be this difficult to do!

    • Guy

      or you could copy the link in the address bar. that should really not be difficult to do.

    • Anon

      Facebook has become little more than a tool for stroking one's ego and being spied upon. Abandon it in favor of social media that will not give your information to the highest bidder.

      • Brian B

        Well that's a useless response without a suggestion as to which social media site is not trying to sell your information.

    • bestbitsbites

      At the High5Kitchen our tagline is "maximize plant based whole foods and minimize process foods".

      But there is still more to consider.

      Many people are surprised to find out that foods they think of as not being processed have undergone some processing method: Raw almonds in California, right now, are not "raw" but have been pasteurized. According to the Almond Board, five methods of “pasteurization” are permitted: oil roasting, dry roasting, blanching, steam processing, and the use of propylene oxide (PPO),which is an extremely volatile liquid used in the production of polyurethane plastics.

      No way to know, without labels and there are none, which processing method is used for your "raw" almonds. Of course, if you buy organic almonds, you by pass the PPO pasteurization process, which in this case, and in general, we recommend.

    • http://twitter.com/beckinoles @beckinoles

      Ummm…Facebook Share button, top left hand side of the post.

    • NaturalSociety

      We are working on changing the Facebook share and other social media share buttons so everyone can see them. They are on the left hand side right now (ctrl + scroll out may help to see it) but we are moving it ASAP.

      Thank you for your interest in spreading the word.

    • Joe

      From what I understand horse meat is very high in testosterone .I don't know the health implications but I would think that might cause more problems for women then men.like I said I don't know you will have to look into that yourself.