Dr. Judy Carman, an appointed expert on GMOs, has much to teach us about the dangers of biotech’s tinkering with our food supply. Not only does she point out some very obvious flaws in the regulatory process of approving genetically modified organisms in the US, Australia, and New Zealand, but she also details the holes in the argument of ‘substantial equivalency’ that companies like Monsanto, Dow, Bayer, and Syngenta try to use as reason to continue selling GM crops to the world.
Dr. Carman points 5 significant points about GMOs and the lack of sufficient scientific testing in a recent talk.
1. GMOs are Not ‘Substantially Equivalent’ to Non-GMO Foods
Proving GMOs substantially-equivalent to their non-GM counterparts is a laughable task. As Dr. Carman points out, there is no definition by regulatory agents of what is needed in an organism to pass and what is recognizable in one that would fail. She says “it’s like trying to fail at a speed test when there is no speed.”
2. GMO Safety Testing is Fragile
In government ‘safety testing’ of GMOs, both here and abroad, more than one gene can be inserted into a plant without any safety testing. That means the FDA, EPA, USDA, and regulatory bodies in Australia, as elsewhere, can say that a food is safe without any safety testing.
Dr. Carman points out the obvious fallacy in this ideology. She uses the analogy of taking one drug, and then ignoring the possible interactions if other drugs are added to the mix. This is the same concern which is being ignored in plants that have multiple genetic alterations. One is worrisome enough.
Scientists really have no idea what happens when you add several genetic mutations. More than a third of corn grown in the US is ‘stacked’ with both herbicide-tolerant and Bt genes.
3. GMO Crops Likely Spark Gut Ailments
Bt gene-alteration causes a protein to be released in a ‘grub’ that eats genetically modified BT corn, for example, and causes pores in the gut which rupture. If it does that to an insect, is there any doubt about why there is so much incidence of leaky gut syndrome and other bowel health issues today with all of the GMOs consumed?
4. ‘Feeding Studies’ are Not ‘Required’ by Biotech
The ‘industry,” meaning Monsanto, Dow, Syngenta, Bayer, etc., can do feeding studies if they ‘want to,’ but are not required to do these studies at all. Of course, when they report back to agencies, it is always the insider scientists hired by the company that reports on the company’s product. Conflict of interest anyone?
Read: 40+ Rodent Feeding Studies Show GMO Hazards to Health
As Dr. Carman points out, these ‘studies’ usually amount to obtaining a protein (usually genetically modified also, but not necessarily the same exact protein that GM crops would contain, i.e., not the actual GM crop itself) and feeding it to rats to see if they die in 7 to 14 days. Not much of a study when they only wait two weeks to look for adverse effects on health, and often don’t even feed the rats the actual GM foods.
5. Biotech Funds its own Studies
It is clear that most studies promoting GM crops ‘come from the industry’ itself. Enough said.
1. Ok Chrissy you have us there. Gmos are actually better in many cases.
2. Right again Chrissy, gmo testing is fragile, to the organic science fiction misinformation handbook.
3. Now Chrissy, even you little miss Judy couldn’t prove that one in her pig study that actual showed more problems with non gmo pigs, but still statistically the same.
4. You have us again chissy, but they do them anyway. Just to make sure they are safe.
5. Who else but the creator is going to fund a study on a new product? Does this mean Chrissy wants to start a fund for a new government organization to start doing safety testing? I wonder how much she will donate?
sarky bugger arent you?
well if the companies will NOT hand seed over to anyone wanting to test?
and if they do they insist on “advisors” overseeing the methods?
and to assist??? with the final report writing?
as one ussa uni found out researching corn root borers, the controls BY the seed cos made it impossible to DO independent research
strange how there are mountains of independent research out there then isn’t it.
What did you say that their is mountains of independent research? Okay give me the links where there are (double blind) and (independent) study’s!
Google gmo dangerous talk go to the site and click on the studies with independent funding.
Lmao, good link., NOT!
Your masters should be really proud of that one…
Not smart enough to get there? Not surprising.
go back to Israhell
Oh Eddie GFY (gmos for you) pal.
Can you tell how global warming causes kidney failure oh wise one?
Why do you bother arguing with this troll? The biotech companies are losing money. Monsanto had to release their files and everyone will know they lied and misinformed about gmos. Let him have his fun now!
He’s a troll who can eat, and feed his family, all the GMO’s he wants. Yes, Monsanto has proven historically that they can be trusted when their scientists claim one of their consumer products is safe ;-). Or how about the recently discredited U of F scientist who CLAIMED to be independent, only to be discovered he was on Monsanto’s payroll. Best not to engage trolls. But their stupidity and arrogance is kind of amusing though. 🙂
Actually it has been a great learning experience playing with the trolls here.
I’m not coming away empty.
My past occupations had me doing a lot of internal investigative work, looking at the sources of their links is very revealing. Many are professional activists, they are for the money nothing else. No one really cares anymore, unless they can get paid, then they will do or say anything.
So sad…
Gmo Roberts I went you your site http://www.dangeroustalk.net/a-team/GMO. I couldn’t find one study that was a (double blind) independent study sorry, try again
What do you mean this one http://www.geneticliteracyproject.org/2015/01/26/10-studies-proving-gmos-are-harmful-not-if-science-matters/
no point in trying to reason with no arms & no legs GMO BOB… this moron is a mentally ill wannabe shill for BIG AG…this man’s mind is diseased & not worth responding to…seems he can’t keep up with the conversation & needs to eat at the kiddies table…please ignore this sik F*k
6. No one wants your GMO. Deal with it.
Strange how they just keep selling and disappearing isn’t it.
If it does that to an insect, is there any doubt about why there is so much incidence of leaky gut syndrome and other bowel health issues today with all of the GMOs consumed?
This is a Fox News tactic! Ask a question that insinuates a conclusion. For example, ‘is President Obama a secret Muslim?’ No. There is no rational basis upon which to suggest that just because a compound has a particular effect in insects, it will have a similar effect in humans. Humans and insects, in case the author did not notice, have very different physiology.
Biotech Funds Its Own Studies
So does the organic food industry. Stop being such a bloody hypocrite. Yes, industry funded science should be viewed with additional skepticism and perhaps even given less weight compared to studies funded by independent sources. But industry funding by itself is not a basis to reject a study. That’s fallacious reasoning.
I actually agree with the author when it comes to regulatory and safety testing of GMOs. To an extent anyway. There needs to be more transparency and universal guidelines established. These things are coming, but at this point in time are a valid point of criticism of the industry.
What are the challenges of doing this type of research?
There are two major challenges. First, it is very hard to get GM seed to conduct the research. In order to buy GM seed, you have to go to a licensed seed dealer, and sign a technology
licensing agreement, which states that you won’t do any research on the seed, which includes agronomic, health, and environmental research. Also, scientists who try to research health impacts of GM food get harassed and intimidated by people with vested interests in
GM technology. I’ve had 10 years of abuse from such people who’ve defamed me, driven me out of a university, and tried to get me fired from jobs. With that kind of intimidation, scientists often decide not to do any research.
Vested interests have been trying to find out about research I’m doing. They filed a freedom of information request with the Western Australian government to find out. The government denied their request. It could have ended up in court. My research protocol could have been stolen.
Funding for studies looking at health effects of GM foods is difficult to find in the United States.
Do you find that universities and organizations in Australia also don’t want to fund
such studies?
Yes, it is very difficult to get funding. If you want to do medical research, you have to go to an organization that funds such research. In order to get funding, you need to have a proven track record in that area of research. In a new area of research such as GM food safety, no one has a track record, so it is difficult to get the funding. It’s a Catch-22.
GM food advocates want to make people who do this type of work frightened of losing their jobs to make them stop working on the issue.
non-gmoreport dot com/articles/dec0/gm_food_safey_testing_inadequate.php
youtube dot com/watch?v=su0om5L4Bhg
Don’t make it sound so hard. Unless you are doing research on the health of farmers handling the seed why do you need to go to a seed dealer? The public doesn’t consume the seed. Go to a farmer and buy the gmo grain. You need no license and that is the product that is actually goes to the food chain. You run documented theories on the scare tactics don’t hold much merit either.
Court Finds Monsanto Guilty Of Poisoning Farmers
offthegridnews dot com/current-events/court-finds-monsanto-guilty-of-poisoning-farmers/
And that fits in to our current topic how?
You mentioned the health of farmers, I just posted a related story.
Isn’t the title of the article basically about the health effects of GMO and their products?
Doesn’t corn syrup come from the corn seeds?
I said “Unless you are doing research on the health of farmers handling the seed..” You follow up with an article not about farmers and seed, but about farmers and a chemical. That has nothing to do with this topic as you only again are trying to deflect the truth.
I’m just doing what you and your friends do, only I’m using actual informative links, not opinions, distortions or disinformation.
Leave the readers free to make their own informed decisions.
Most people are pretty smart and will come to their own conclusions.
Once again you are off topic and misleading people, but I am use to your childish behavior.
I posted an articles by Dr Carmen and the vid from the Canadian farmer who got in trouble because of GMO’s contaminating his crops.
Then you completely turned it around in an attempt to bait for further argument.
Oh, you can do it, but no one else can, just for your arguing points.
She is a researcher and cannot get the seed, as per her article, which also outlined her difficulties, not to mention the following assault and attempts to ruin her.
You sell seeds and have 1 million dollars in debt, which you cleared by selling your soul to satan.
I had my choice and I kept my soul.
Can’t find her or do you mean carman? As for the farmer hopefully you don’t mean Schmeiser.
Yes, Dr. Carman, sorry looked at it and came right down and misspelled it anyways.
And yes, Mr. Schmeiser.
Schmeiser only got in trouble because he try to profit from his gmo contamination. You obviously need go read up on the case. And Carman has done research and by her own published results proved that statistically gmo and non gmos are equal. You really need o come up with something better or just quit.
His GMO contamination, as if to place the whole contamination process on him.
gmojudycarman dot org/
It’s ok, I understand you have to lie or your masters will make you pay the price.
Obviously you understand nothing, especially about patents and statistics.
You do talk up a good shit storm don’t you. Famous factual saying. ‘If you control the food you control the people.’ Now why do I get the impression that Monsanto are a part of this conspiracy? Yes I know all to well about patents and statistics.
But regardless as to whether GMOs are safe or not I and the vast majority of people do not want them. Period. So go run along and bark at the moon,
Then buy organic and non gmo labeled food, or grow it yourself. No one is saying you can’t.
HAHA x35
they’re just simple farmers with 24 yrs a day online trying to disprove what we already know, GMOs are poison and Monsanto is the epitome of an Evil Corporation
Just a single LOL for this one.
BLAH BLAH BLAH
LOL x3
LOL, yes helping farmers feed the world is selling my soul. Gmos has science and you have your hair brain theories that have been continuously disproven.
LMAO, prove exactly how many lives you have saved. And explain why Russia is promoting self reliance and self sufficiency through local communities and banning all GMO’s.
As poverty increases around the world, so do the death’s caused by malnourishment and corruption.
The land grab has also made the news, people are finally able to see the obvious. You cannot make claim to feeding a population if you steal their land.
Just the rise in poverty alone means your not feeding anybody, except the corporate shareholders profits.
Your stupidity is unbelievable.
Ditto.
Talking about yourself again
The last UN figures produced that I have seen for 2013 showed that sufficient food was grown to feed a population of 13.5 billion people. So why are there starving people? Simple. Its called economic growth and if I have to explain how this is all relevant to GMOs then you are the one who has the hair brain. You really don’t understand what your talking about. But I take heart that if you and your cronies get their way then you and your cronies will expire the same as the rest of us because you will need to eat like us and all there will be is toxic GMO crops. Go figure.
Are you that short sighted? Do you wish to figure out how to feed twice as many people AFTER they are here? Real smart.
Your mom.
http://www.ewao.com/a/1-monsanto-tanking-posts-495-million-quarterly-loss-and-plans-to-eliminate-2600-jobs/
LOL to the sixteenth power.
ROFL + LOL
ROFL
GMOs are poison sprayed with poison.
Non gmo is as well, the difference is the non gmo chemicals are much worse.
what is sprayed on non GMO crops that isn’t sprayed on GMO crops? nothing, unless the crop is modified to kill pests such as the BT corn it gets sprayed the same or more. right now the 3 biggest food crops are being sprayed with round up. Americans are eating way way more roundup than 15 years ago
Non Bt corn will have granular insecticide applied to the soil. Products like Lorsban is an organophosphate that is highly toxic to the environment and those who have to handle it. Non gmo corns can also need an application of insecticide later in the growing season as well, to combat pests like corn borer or army worm.
Roundup has also reduced the amount of several other chemicals that farmers use on non gmo corn and soybeans. Atrazine usage has declined, and the use of sulfurons has almost totally went away. Some of these were sprayed directly onto the plant while others were applied to the soil and could leach into ground water.
https://www.minds.com/blog/view/339294826262433792/monsanto-ordered-to-pay-93-million-to-small-town-for-poisoning-citizens
LMAO
it is ILLEGAL for the farmer to sell seed to anyone BUT the handlers
and..yes weDO eat the seed..what do you think corn is? the seed of gm mod plants ditto cotton seed used in your deepfryer oil and other food products.
cheap…and nasty
and then the canola..
He knows the GE seed agreements, he’s just fishing for more argumentative points to support his agenda.
Gmo Roberts is a Monsanto ‘shill’ so ignore him.His handlers get him to bark at anything that remotely sounds anti GMO. Very much like being one of Pavlovs doggies. Ding! Woof!
Obviously you know very little about farmers. Farmers sell to whoever they wish including individuals. Most grain in this country does not end up with a bio tech companies as the majority of them are not large players in that area. Most of the corn we raise goes either for livestock production or ethanol. While the soybeans are either exported or again used in livestock production. As far as eating the “seed” you are trying to twist the facts. People do not eat a $300 bag of treated seed corn, they plant it, harvest the crop and then eat the resulting grain.
So in effect, they do eat the $300 bag of treated seed.
they plant it, “Treat it”, harvest the crop and then eat the resulting grain.
You left something out.
“Treat it” is not mandatory. Again, they do not eat the seed, they eat the resulting product.
LOL
which is the seed grown from the seed, you idiot
You are as dumb as he is. The seed corn is treated and no one eats it.
the seed corn is treated? what the hell are you talking about? the corn seed is altered genetically and the crops are sprayed with round up and pesticides. what is corn seed treated with?
All commercial seed corn (even sweet corn) is treated. Most are treated with an insecticide either Bayer’s Poncho or Syngenta’s Cruiser. Most will also have a fungicide like dynasty on it as well. A lot of sweet corn will still have older versions of these chemicals on them.
The purpose of these are to protect the seed from secondary pests such as wireworms and seed corn maggots as well as diseases that can affect the young plants in cool wet weather. The insect traits work only a select group of pests like corn rootworm and corn borer.
so then if its on all of the corn, how is the “Non GMO chemicals” worse? how is non GMO crops worse?
That part is equal, weed control and major insect control is where they differ.
HAHA
we’re getting a petition together to get you banned from this site…eat that!
BOB
Eddie if they let you on here then they obviously have no standards.
This whole thing about GMO foods is really for population control and it is already admitted. If you look at Rockefeller Families and Bill Gates are funding millions of dollars in vaccines, GMOs, and others for human population control. So you know already it has causing sterile among women in third world countries.
Personal injury law firms around the U.S. are lining up plaintiffs for what they say could be “mass tort” actions against Monsanto due to Roundup herbicide caused cancers. Meanwhile, at least 700 lawsuits against Monsanto or Monsanto-related entities are pending, brought by law firms on behalf of people who claim their non-Hodgkin lymphoma was caused by exposure to PCBs.
https://www.facebook.com/GMOFreeUSA/?fref=photo
Some interesting reading for you all,
building community and local self sufficiency
A community in North Carolina has been inspired to grow its own food and
create better health thanks to this preacher’s activism.
trueactivist dot com/north-carolina-pastor-is-transforming-food-deserts-into-oases-for-the-poor/
THERE ARE MORE FARMERS WORLD WIDE WHO ARE AGAINST GMO CROPS!https://www.minds.com/blog/view/419571275669704704/hundreds-of-farmers-block-roads-in-protest-of-monsanto%E2%80%99s-gmo-crops-poland%E2%80%99s-largest-farmer-uprising
http://naturalsociety.com/miracle-golden-rice-could-cause-birth-defects-warns-indian-scientist/