Top Scientist Who Exposed GMO Now Silenced by Biotech
Along with many other censored researchers
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“If I had the choice, I certainly wouldn’t eat it,” said scientist Arpad Pustazai in an interview conducted after his study of GMOs.
Have you heard his name before? Likely not, since biotech made an example of him in 1998, launching an attack against any scientist that exposed just how toxic GM crops truly are. What did Pustazai find when he conducted trials on animals given genetically modified food? Read on to find out what Monsanto has suppressed for decades.
Dr. Pustazai’s comments about GMOs were aired on British television in the summer of 1998, and they were a viral flame that biotech decided to hose down as fast as they could. Dr. Pustazai has credentials as a world-renowned expert on food safety. He worked at one of the UK’s leading food safety research labs, the Rowett institute. The scientist has more than 300 articles to his credit, as well as three books. Nonetheless, just a few days after his public statement, he was suspended and gagged by the research institute where he worked.
Dr. Pustazai’s curriculum vitae is what afforded him a $3 million grant by the UK government to study GMOs. Dr. Pustazai was possibly the first, if not a primary scientist to point out that GM food was not at all substantially equivalent to non-GM foods.
He also pointed out that the testing procedures employed by the UK, and incidentally, this is true for the US as well, were inadequate to determine toxicity due to the short durations used. He said that this only ‘superficially’’ tested foods, and only longer-term studies would reveal their true detriment to human and animal health.
The biotech industry set out to make Dr. Pustazai look like a senile idiot, but what he found in his own longer-term studies was extremely telling. Later, 24 additional scientists in countries around the world confirmed Pustazai’s findings to be true.
Read: Former Pro-GMO Scientists Admits GMOs are Dangerous
When the doctor fed rats GM potatoes, within just 10 days, the animals developed potentially pre-cancerous cell growth, smaller brains, livers, and testicles, partially atrophied livers, and damaged immune systems. What’s more, the cause was most certainly side effects from the process of genetic engineering itself. In other words, the GM foods sold in grocery stores, which are created from the very same process, likely have similar effects on humans, according to Pustazai’s research.
How many more Dr. Pustazai’s are out there, do you think? Scientists that have been shamed, fired, discredited, or possibly worse, so that the biotech industry can continue selling the world poison? One example that comes straight to mind is Tyrone Hayes, a scientist who was discredited, gagged, and more by biotech giant Syngenta – all because this biologist from UC Berkeley told the truth about the company’s herbicide Atrazine and its cancer-causing nature.
You can’t keep the truth a secret forever, though – even if you are a multi-billion dollar industry which uses illegal and immoral tactics. You can read Pustazai’s study in full, here.
Be sure to pass it along.
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| Christina Sarich is a humanitarian and freelance writer helping you to Wake up Your Sleepy Little Head, and See the Big Picture. Her blog is Yoga for the New World. Her latest book is Pharma Sutra: Healing the Body And Mind Through the Art of Yoga. |
No need to engage GMO Roberts, folks. He was likely hired by biotech firms to troll sites like this and comment. His comments are the standard biotech jargon: “Nothing to see here, folks, and if you keep looking, you’re an idiot who really doesn’t understand science…” Arguing with him only increases his platform. Just disengage- he offers nothing substantive to the discussion.
Gotta love the attempts at Wikipedia citation bluffing. While Wikipedia is usually perfectly adequate if you want to learn about who won on American Idol last year or what year Elizabeth II was coronated. But everyone who is paying attention knows that when it comes to controversial topics, Wikipedia tends to be highly partisan. And it cuts both ways.
This potato study example where the lectin from the snowdrops fed the mice did nothing, but once the gene for the lectin protein was placed within the potato, some unknown changes took place which made the lectin toxic to the mice, reminds me of the Australian CSIRO Pea study which the same occurrence took place where the protein extracted from the bean had no effect on mice or people, but when expressed in the pea, had terrible consequences. This is where these fools have no clue about how the reality of informational content within DNA and Genes and especially with the new field of epigenetics coming around, reveals that these genes have multiple switches which may or may not be turned on or off. Not to mention finding that many genes have multiple codes layered and buried on top of one another. So when Robb Fraley and Alison Van Eenennaam spew “DNA is just DNA and Genes are just Genes”, they are lying through their teeth. The reality here has zero to do with good science and more to do with preserving a grossly flawed business model.
https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn8347-gm-pea-causes-allergic-damage-in-mice/
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pusztai_affair
Wow. Two hours & GMO Roberts & his crew aren’t here yet!
Don’t worry, the stench of this subject will attract those flies
Pustazai’s study had a number of flaws, which the anti-GMO camp seems happy to ignore.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%81rp%C3%A1d_Pusztai#Pusztai_affair
http://www.sciencemag.org/content/286/5440/656.1.full
He’s not the only one blow the whistle on GMO foods, there are other scientists blew the whistle on GMOs and wouldn’t eat it, too.
Yes the ones that are trying anything, even lying, to make a name for themselves.
hey look everybody its gmo roberts the monsanto troll
Obviously, you have never read my posts have you.
I don’t think so.
Eighty eight percent of scientist back gmos, oh I’m sorry that is just another conspiracy isn’t it kitty.
Show me the proof about 88% of scientist back gmos or you just talking out of your ass. Majority scientific community out there are against gmos and the doctor believe these gmos foods should be labeled, remember that? Don’t tell me you didn’t know it, or just being a selective memory, huh?
“According to a survey conducted by the Pew Research Center in association with the American Association for the Advancement of Science, 88 percent of scientists believe GM foods are safe to eat. . .” Washington Post on February 8, 2015. Don’t you ever tire of being wrong?
GMO Roberts is one of the worlds leading authorities on GMO and the controlled research conducted prior to release in to the natural elements.
LOL, this stuff isn’t that hard to look up, oh it could be for you I guess. There is tons of data out there both from the biotech companies and independent researched, you just have to want to find them.
I have a decent background in environmental studies, and practical applications.
Also, I have an even more extensive background in psyops.
So your talking to some well versed in these matters.
Please shift from childish bantering to a more mature forum discussion.
I did, I suggested that you personally collect and send off samples to an independent lab even suggested one for you and you brushed it off. Point was proven you don’t care enough to do it yourself.
Psyops 101, very good.
Science and the truth of mother nature don’t go hand in hand, science always fails when they try to play mother nature. The research is there go look it up and post your findings here.
LOL, I already believe in gmos I’m not going to go on wild goose chases for you.
Yes good point, even the flocks of geese are being effected by these dangerous elements introduced into nature.
You expect me to research, which I did, but you won’t waste time on me?
I have a right to my voice and concerns, my demands are valid as are those who just wish to know.
GMO’s are real, so beliefs isn’t a subject for regard.
Stand at the front of the line, maybe we could do some simple form of genetic altercation on humans, that would take the GMO’s out of the natural element.
The scientists in the 70’s warned us of introducing genetically altered elements into nature, another fact.
Again science always fails at playing mother nature, they didn’t even listen to their leading experts then, will they listen now, NO.
Humans have been playing with nature, specifically their food for over 10,000. Strangely enough we still survive. If you really care about your flocks of geese and other wildlife, then you should happy that we have gmos, specifically Bt hybrids, that have almost completely eliminated things like granular insecticides that are dangerous not only to the environment, but those of us that had to handle them.
The local communities are the first and foremost responsible for their welfare, that is the key to freedom and safety. Any monopoly and deep pocket structure should be questioned, but mostly run out of the area. Their funding and resulting influence on laws and local officials brings their presence into question. Look into the local land ownership, monopolies force stressed economic influence on locals reducing land ownership by the people and increasing it for corporations.
In other words, they support profit above the local needs.
That is your opinion.
Actually I also have some knowledge in security also.
A strong community can thrive by keeping all aspects of their existence local and contained through community activities. Any outside force will run at the first sign of danger. The community had better have the experience and knowledge to support themselves or it will be a long painful process, requiring outside involvement, which is what usually gets communities in trouble in the first place.
Look at Africa, it was a land grab by corrupt govts for corporations.
Thats why everybody is losing, they are urbanized, no self sufficiency skills.
Bottom line with GMO’s, they should be researched further to ensure their introduction into the environment will not have devastating and long term ill effects.
LOL, they have been researched to death already. You would have a much better argument by not lumping all gmos together, that shows you LACK of knowledge. And you do it quite well.
GMO Roberts is a distributor for GMO seeds.
Conflict of interest and since you are insulting everybody that opposes your views and your bottom line depends on the farming communities acceptance of GMO.
We are freedom loving people and have and will express our rights.
Your a troll and you have no personal invested interest in the safety of local communities or give the slightest care towards the health of our children’s future.
The local communities have rights, the GMO’s do not remove their rights, we don’t give a flying pile of dung about your sales interests.
Get off the internet, unless your searching for a financially in-debt farmer to sell your hope and corporate dreams to.
It’s time for the Communities to take action, don’t let the bought and paid for folks ruin your future.
Wow, with no real argument the best you can do is insults? Sorry to say this but I sold more and made more on non gmo products. So that kinda shoots your sales theory in the foot now doesn’t it. Gmos have been proven now for decades with zero issues, but that still isn’t good enough for you and never will be because you just want to complain. Tell me why don’t you raise such a fuss over things like seedless watermelons and ruby red grapefruits? Could it be because of more ignorance on your part? Or maybe you just don’t care.
The difference between you and I,
When your pay check runs dry, your will do your best to satisfy your lust else where, your loyalties are only with the money.
I have taken and Oath, my pay check has run dry, but I am a man and my word is important. It’s my duty to fight for the People, it never ends.
You will always be fought, and when it comes down to it you will have to cry for protection, but guess what, then you will have to call on me!
I choose the People, because it’s my duty and I’ll honor them as the core principle of my duty.
Your trolling has been insulting everyone who opposes your views, but the disconnect and the repercussions are nil, because your protected through the internet. Through your disconnect your truth and great achievements come into question, well because your a troll.
The Communities need to be strong, they need to be informed and their rights need to be protected, and that fight is mine. The internet and civil discourse is on you as well as the resulting actions for representing everything that is wrong with the world today. Be a man, or as much as possible, accept some responsibility and show a genuine regard for the possible repercussions.
Your trolling doesn’t diminish the rights of the People, they are trying to mitigate the risks and the unknowns for the sake of their communities.
You might as well run and hide,
An Oath is forever an honor and a duty.
Your pay check will fade away and you’ll find another way to make your self feels good, all the while proving you have no loyalties to none.
I’m a Warrior, your a troll.
I already chose my ground a long time ago.
LOL, a warrior? Maybe one for hunger. The world needs to eat and we have a very short time to become very productive and gmos can help us get there. As for the money, if I was truly about that I would have done something else a long time ago. You have no honor, because you won’t accept the truth that gmos are safe. Are they for everyone? No and I have never said I have a problem with anyone growing their own food or buying organic. Yes people should be informed and the farmers and biotech companies have done a poor job of educating people on the benefits of gmos and why we need them. However, that is finally changing and the truth will win out and people like you will be revealed for the jokers you really are.
I have been around the world and have saw the damage done, to all I’m truly sorry. I didn’t expect to find the truths, but they were presented to me.
Now to the GMO fans, I as a citizen and concerned individual with respect to my rights, am open to demand. I’ll say are GMO’s dangerous, or are they safe?
A controlled scientific study needs to be done, one of at least 5 years span.
GMO Roberts will be ok, because he already knows how to stock and supply and sell heirloom and hybrid seeds.
The education belongs to the communities as does the land. Folks have been farming for thousands of years and the loss of GMO’s for a true controlled time of scientific research won’t starve the nation or the worlds People.
The GMO manufacturers have other seeds to market while research is being done, they will be ok also.
LOL, a warrior? Maybe one for hunger. Yes, but not anymore, I have seen what my part has done many times over and I’m very sorry.
The communities have the power to feed themselves, all it takes is knowledge and experience. The local farmers and a active community system will provide for all. GMO’s don’t do it, we do.
You have no honor, because you won’t accept the truth that gmos are safe.
The honor would be in providing a relevant time based controlled study, and not just giving us the honor of having to bear through your making claims that are provided through your sales brochures and making claims without any documented proof provided.
Give me a 5 year environmental study report, you can’t because there are none, and it would be within the Peoples rights to ask for one, demand one.
The land belongs to the community.
The reports from the scientific community are being replicated, with negative results as to the originally claimed findings, as we speak. Made the news today, but I’ll assume you will turn and throw the arrow back at me and call me a liar.
The lies are being brought to the surface.
Do you know why this is happening and what it means?
Answer that one seed seller.
The lies are being called out because at every turn the truth about the safety of gmos is being taught, and your lies of the opposite can’t withstand the light of the truth. Even the labeling advocates have turned away from their claims that gmos are unsafe and switched to a right to know campaign. As for your timeline, there are animals out there that have already eaten gmos their whole lives, which is longer than 5 years and still no problems, but of course you won’t believe such things. If they did the studies as you asked at the end of 5 years if the results didn’t suit you, then you would simply claim that it needs to be ten years and the more and more. You are not an expert in any of these fields, you refuse to even do your own simple testing, and then you claim to “have been around the world and have saw the damage done”, but don’t list the damage or have any proof to back it up. You are just a whiner that will complain no matter what. I can respect people that don’t want to eat gmos and would rather grow their own food or buy organic, but you just wish to waste resources on subjects that have already been proven. It is a shame. You have my pity.
You are very insulting and have always been. Your a spoiled rotten child handed everything, your elitist narcissistic disease is spreading. Your parents taught you to act like your better than the peasants and hold to that, everyone else falls below you. In the battle you will cry and scream out for God to help you. If you and I met face to face, I’d have you crying for your mama in seconds, make the bad people go away, I wouldn’t even have to touch your little girlie person to achieve this.
The People have rights and they demand to know why the GMO’s are buying favors and hiding through trolls like you and the gov agencies. Even if GMO’s are proven to be of a great danger, your kind of filth will kill and subvert the truth for your tyrannical oppressive purposes. I have seen it with my own eyes girlie man. The world is bigger than your little girlie imagination.
Your scientists are being taught to fear the truth by the powers that be and your the conduit. You have no real protection, because even those who you are flinging this crap around here for, DON’T LIKE YOU GIRLIE MAN. They will stand and watch while your destroyed, I have seen it with my own eyes girlie.
What do you know or war, it is something your above because your money buys protection and you can run and hide behind mama’s skirt. Your a coward, always a winner because your daddy will protect you. Come and stand before me girlie man. Your GMO buddies know who I am, have them send out one of their girlies to meet me. I already know who they’ll send and I’ll lose, but I will and am not afraid to fight the girlies and give them my best.
I have none and wish for none, but to guard and protect the People. You my friend are intent on diminishing the rights of all, wishing for the oppressors to be able to show their nasty faces, without realizing, they will destroy you without care or concern.
Does that make you feel good, girlie man, fear none your protected by your mouth, I wish not to be protected, but wish to protect, it is my duty.
The GMO manufacturers are girlie men also, they fear the rot and filth they are spreading, otherwise why would they run to the Gov for their girlie man protection. Spoiled rotten babies, given everything, don’t know the meaning of a decent days work or the gratification of self sacrifice.
Be proud girlie, I just gave the emotional response you have been trying to gather through your simplistic insulting and psyops tactic. I have read all of the manuals too, slept through the power point presentations, girlie man
As a right is a right, to have the research proven, it would be a right, your spewing crap out of your mouth constantly just gives credence to the questions being asked by the People, who have the right to question a filthy piece of dung like you who can only attack the freedom of the People.
War can be direct or waged through economics. Answer me this girlie, which your above answering question because your the greatest thing ever, Corn is valued on speculation, they price paid is the same, but after the harvest the GMO filth buys brand new SUV and trucks, while the non GMO go to the bank to get credit for the next years crops. Because the GMO filth have to take advantage of desperate farmers and they pay then to grow the disgusting crap.
Are your little feelings hurt, you have constantly insulted everybody here, you have therefore EARNED this, way to give the GMO turds a good name girlie. GMO paid for the proof and infiltrated the EPA, FDA and USDA. Revolving door from GMO to .gov, Why did the GMO FILTH buy a bunch of mercenary’s, because eventually the truth will be known and the girlies need protection.
Duh why do the People want to question, uh duh. Because you folks are killers and don’t give a crap about nothing but belittling and propping up the crap for your part in the agenda.
Your the reason GMO should be banned and real scientists should be allowed to research this topic.
Get mad punk, talk crap about me and call me names, twist your view girlie. But you’ll still be a pussy and I’ll still be dedicated to my Oath and the People.
I hope the mods don’t delete this before you see it girlie. They let you continually insult everybody here, we should have our chance to return the crap back in your direction.
If you don’t meet me, there are millions of my friends waiting in line to meet you girlie man.
Lol, I have anything but hurt feelings. You incoherent ramblings make me pity you even more. If anyone is mad, upset, and whining it is pretty clearly you. I think it would be great to meet you, especially while you are restrained in your straight jacket. Keep trying to guess things about me you definitely have proven you know nothing about me. Try to find a way to defuse your anger.
You all know that’s why he trolls, so I gave you what you wanted, I know what baiting is and trolling and flaming. Another fact, girlie man.
GMO Roberts is a con man and a sham artist, paid to be so. These type of folks used to get run out of towns, now they run major corporations and are Military leaders and elected gov officials.
Hurt feelings, lmao, your a professional and don’t get paid to have feelings.
Look up Antisocial personality disorder girlie man.
Get your self some professional help, maybe find a hobby.
Read through your messages here, you deny the people knowledge and their rights.
The community is the key to survival, not you.
Look up De Oppresso Libre, why do they build communities, primary mission to teach and train communities to be self sustained?
Because it is proven and effective, the people are their best keepers and the land is theirs. Anything less is a threat to the safety of all.
I had fun, just came on here because I love to mess with professional trolls.
And to show the world that girlie men are GMO trolls. Satans minions
Folks have rights girlie man, GMO’s are for lazy farmers who like profit and stealing land and there should be no such thing. Not on my watch, it’s coming girlie, hope your ready, hope you don’t end up standing alone.
I’ll pray for you GMORoberts and your family.
Folks, your best keeper is you, gather the strength that your communities have, educate your selves. Find some Amish folks, they are a wealth of knowledge. they don’t farm for profit, they farm for the real reason, to feed their communities. then they sell the excess.
You don’t need GMO’s to do what has been done for thousands of years,
GMO is an economic class type of warfare, it’s a land grab.
GMO’s are basically like Monsanto teaching bicycle safety, hero’s for doing what the people can and should and have been doing themselves.
Am I crazy and everything I said rambling, maybe.
But at least I had content and provided a basic path for the future, folks gathering their communities and
educating gaining knowledge. It’s your land folks, these GMO Girlie’s are weak.
Girlie man denied you all knowledge, saying your best keeper and your childrens is GMO’s.
Lock me up, I’ll wait here for the boogeyman.
Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
All enemies foreign and domestic.
You finally told the truth “Am I crazy and everything I said rambling, maybe”. LOL, you have been entertaining, but again you are way off base especially if you think the Amish are that pure. Have many Amish customers, they grow and feed gmos, and they are doing this to make a living by selling it. You act as if profit is so evil, we all make livings everyday. We go to work not for fun or the good of man, but for profit so we can cloth our families and put food on the table. Never been anything, but honest and yet you have accused me of everything under the sun. Now you accuse me of getting paid for this even after I told you what I do. People plant gmos and want them because they work plain and simple. You are just ranting and are hurting your cause a lot more than you are helping it.
Millions of dollars have been invested into my education, thanks for paying your taxes. Now I’m an enemy, hmm, I wonder why?
Because leading scientist and experts have said so…
I am wrong, lmao.
You win.
Well they always did say the government wastes a lot of money. It is a shame that they can put people in front of the information, but that doesn’t mean they will learn anything. You still have my pity as does all the mentally ill.
You don’t have pity, or any realistic views or moral or ethical feelings.
I already diagnosed your mental illness ASPD, brought to you by my researching leading experts.
Your diagnosis is based on your opinions, because I oppose your views and dare question you. That’s a form of tyranny and oppression. Your attacks and insults are unrecognized by you, whats the first thing you did here, Insulted Christina Sarich. But that’s ok?
Followed by insulting everything else that doesn’t fit into your worldly views.
Do some research on the alpha mentality, they are very dangerous.
Quote,
Well they always did say the government wastes a lot of money. It is a shame that they can put people in front of the information, but
that doesn’t mean they will learn anything.
1. Who’s they?
2. Freedom is a waste of money?
3. Are you the source of information?
4. Isn’t history one of our greatest sources of learning?
You still have my pity as does all the mentally ill.
Psyops 101, research the Delphi technique.
Also research Maslow’s hierarchy of needs, we can further discuss these research topics. Maslow’s is very important. WHY?
More babbles? Do you ever have a point to make? Funny how when you have been confronted with facts the best you can try and do is go off on one of your weird tangents. I am very sorry that you are unable to enjoy life, maybe you will be able to find peace in the next one. Maybe you won’t be scared of everything the next life has to offer.
I already know fear at it’s most intense levels?
I don’t fear none but my self, I am now at peace with myself.
Let’s reveal some edu information,
I claim to be in some sort of Military, or was.
They don’t just carry big scary guns and kill.
Fuel, bullets and Hazardous materials and many other varied items need to be considered.
I was a Federal Environmental Compliance Inspector, this involves training and much of this training has been structured around historical evidence. and research.
Haz mat shipping and packaging, Federally trained.
Working and complying with local, State and Federal laws, done that been trained.
Foreign Laws and compliance, done that in many different countries.
Reviewing Military and local laws, updating SOP’s and ensuring compliance is enforced at all levels, done that.
Working with local and Foreign entities to ensure a full understanding and productive working relationship is established and maintained. Been there, have the t shirt and coffee cup.
26 years experience, retired Honorably. I would have continued, but was medically retired due to Combat injuries. Fear, lmao, you don’t know fear.
I am an expert of sorts, but there are always things to learn, so expert would indicate the learning has reached it’s limits. Though I know you will deny my experience and attempt to throw some sort of psyop garbage out there for our thrilled viewers entertainment.
What’s your education seed seller?
“I don’t fear none but my self” see even you know you are crazy. LOL, you claim to hate government regulations and intervention, and don’t believe them as well, but claim to have done just that for 26 years. So no you even admit that you are part of the problem.
That is a very nice and crazy assessment, thanks seed seller.
I said I hated regulations and intervention?
Tell me about the American Chestnut tree seed seller.
That is one of the major historical reasons that environmental stewardship is so important. Need more environmental blunders to research?
If chemicals and genetic altercations are above nature and stewardship can be totally dismissed, what do we do in the event of failure? I’ll tell you what we do, realize that we are our best keepers. Learn, educate and strengthen our local communities.
Is risk management or risk mitigation important, as well as continual research and studies of effects?
I don’t live in fear seed seller, there is nothing to fear beyond ignorance.
Why do you keep calling a Disabled Veteran Honorably Retired, Crazy?
Ahh, because the experts will concur with your biased statements. The experts are on a witch hunt, because they know and fear what they have trained me.
There is so much your narrow view of the world doesn’t allow you to see, seed seller.
You admitted you were crazy so I just agreed with you, and you incoherent rambling just proves it even more. See we can agree on some things.
You again have done yourself the great credit of posting nothing with out content, based on nothing but a continual argument about your true cause nothing. Well, other than defending something the people have the knowledge and power to do themselves. All the while defending the potential destruction of the land and the future of all by ignoring the responsibility of practicing the federally mandated stewardship management programs. The people are, as they should be, concerned about their land and the conduct of the corporations questionable practices. They have spoken and are being ignored through deceptive and malicious actions. The people have rights, they have a duty to be stewards to the lands of the world. The questionable antics being practiced by these GMO practitioners are unethical in every way. They have successfully lobbied and placed the responsibility for their non compliance onto the people, they have bought and paid for their protections. Due to these allegations of unethical practices their product has come under question by the World’s Nations and their People’s. The Nations and People choose the land.
I am a professional and have had the privilege of working with other professionals within the Federal Government and many Foreign entities and Governments. My performance evaluations have always reflected great credit upon myself, my Country and the other Professionals I have had the honor to work with and for.
My Commander was the President of the United States.
My primary function was to be ready and willing to give my life in defense of said Nation and the People. I served Honorably. I met many hardships and adversities and trained and lead the Nations Warriors through these same adversities and hardships. Yes I am crazy, doing for those I don’t know or have ever met, willingly placing my life on the line many times for the good of the freedoms of the citizens, protecting their rights and ensuring they will be heard.
My Oath is my strength, I will stand and defend the voice of these concerned People, and guide and train them if necessary. I have nothing and expect nothing, but an still willing to give all.
Seed Sellers have no code, no guide, no moral objective. I do not fight for you seed seller, I fight for the voice of the People and I will fight until they are heard and respected, or until I meet my end.
This battle being conducted is one of information, of knowledge, of educating those who deserve the knowledge to safe guard their futures. I have researched thousands of hours on many topics. My mind now seeks truth and I have found many, it is now my duty to amend the many atrosities committed without my knowledge but by my hand.
I am forced to tread carefully, and at great risk to my future, but alas mine doesn’t matter to me without the Peoples of the worlds protection.
As we came upon the holy land and it’s cities, they were so beautiful, we are here to protect, have no fear. As we rolled out the other side and I turned and looked upon the destruction and death, the People’s had nothing left. But to my amazement they formed their strengths they came together as a community and survived together. No one was there for them, the promise never meant to be kept, but rather goad them towards destruction. It was a land grab, the refugees, displaced peoples. The Corporations swooped in and falsely claimed the spoils of direct conflict as their own. This has happened for thousands of years, always the same.
The land doesn’t belong to GMO’s, under the standards of stewardship and the duties of those responsible, those responsible have shifted the final blame to those who are voicing and attempting to perform their duties, CARE FOR THEIR LAND. IT’S THEIR DUTY, your GMO buddies shifted the responsibility to them.
Face it seed seller, your dull and lifeless arguments have no content, you haven’t been trained for success, but to act blindly and perform as the scapegoat when needed. Your Masters promises to you are as good as their promises to me and the communities they con infiltrate and divide.
It has happened thousands of times throughout history, it is always the same.
Do we want to discuss economic warfare now, this is very effective and necessary within the Advanced Nations.
Though this is the internet, I could be full of BS?
You decide.
You act more treasonist than honorable, it is a shame, no wonder people pity you.
That is a pretty big accusation, You had better check yourself and stand down fast seed seller.
My opposing your beliefs DOESN’T WARRANT THAT ACCUSATION.
Again folks these retards will do and say anything for their agenda, look, it’s right there.
Remember where I was and who I worked with, I’m an EXPERT in that field and know the resources available. You could find yourself in something that doesn’t fit your agenda…
Not a threat, a fact.
Who am I?
Refocus seed seller, don’t ever call out our Nations Warriors. That is my community and we take it seriously. You might want to start using TOR or something like that.
Benedict Arnold was one of our nations warrior and look how he ended. I see a resemblance treasoner.
It is becoming very apparent that you don’t care what you say to anyone, it doesn’t matter to you. Again, look up ASPD. Very well researched and I would recommend you take immediate actions before you hurt someone.
Please seek help.
In truth I do care about you also, this is just an internet comment section, no big deal.
I made a few calls and was directed to some experts.
Don’t worry, many folks here have passion towards many subjects. Things get said and feelings get hurt, but that’s ok.
I would like to recommend the local church, I always sent my troubled Soldiers to the Chaplain, always a big help. Just shy away from those who appear to just want you to join their church. There are many professionals out there also, but remember it’s a business, they depend on return customers.
I truly hope things are going well for you and do wish you the best, I hope there are no hard feelings.
Now that your treasonist actions have been exposed you change your tune? LOL, next you will tell us that it is just an Internet connection and you were never even in the military. Truth be known you probably aren’t even an American.
It’s ok, your right, it doesn’t matter.
Don’t worry, things will work out my friend.
Again sorry for being rather harsh.
Friend? You threaten me and now call me a friend?
It’s ok, no one will harm you.
Please try to follow my advice and seek some help, no one can do it for you, you will need to try to do it of your own accord. Remember, your family needs and loves you very much.
I wouldn’t follow any advice you would give. My family and I are just fine. let me know if you ever have anything real to add to the conversation. Until then I will do all I can to help gmos to keep expanding.
LOL, you wish to take food away from people by raising the prices, and you say I need help? Fortunately you are already on record as admitting you are crazy.
My cause is to waste your time, you will spend a lot of time here trying to defeat me, lmao. Curiosity killed the cat, you will keep coming back. Psyops 101.
There are many different types of Amish. Tell me of them.
What is the good of man, really?
It is knowledge and self sufficiency, knowing community makes life livable.
I’ve done the, well everybody needs money argument also, 300% profit helps who exactly, especially when the money isn’t invested into the local economy, but rather given to the shareholders.
Where do the local Ma and Pa business fit into your version of world equality, consider being regulated out of business before you open your hole. Land grab, by forcing through economic warfare, local business to accept the corporations. Yes your Corporate owned also, otherwise you wouldn’t be able to survive today’s business world.
Again, why has training local communities been so successful it removing tyranny and oppression?
Money it fiat, the value is determined everyday as soon as the corporations get to work and fire up their computers. money represents debt. Digital currency represents control.
Your broke, all of us are broke and it will happen when they say so, has happened many times throughout history.
History is as important as relying on your communities, those divided have always fallen to the predators.
I speak from training, experience and history.
Your view comes from, leading experts?
You really aren’t even good at wasting my time are you? It takes all of two minutes to skim through your babbles and type a quick reply. In case you missed it I do own a mom and pop business so they are very important to me. Of course you have proved time and again that you don’t listen and don’t even really know what you are talking about.
LMAO
The dude is a Military member, I’m sure he has seen countries in total disarray, things that you can’t see from your couch. Imagine, everything shut down over night, the sufferings of humanity. Nah a war torn country has GMO’s, lmao. I’ll bet the corporations were gone long before the first shot was fired.
I have never saw 1 single story of and major player in the GMO industry donating to a war torn country. The statement, it’s to feed the people is just sheeple rubbish for idiots too stupid to realize they are paying for the lies. The only stories I see from the agro industry are record profits for their shareholders. Nothing to do with feeding people.
Have you ever talked to any of the Nations Military Members?
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LOL, you act like making a living is a terrible thing. Farmers wish to feed the world as well, but at the same time they want to be able to put food on their own tables, clothes on their kids.
lumpy: “GMO Roberts is a distributor for GMO seeds”
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Upton Sinclair:
“It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.”
John Cleese:
“I think the problem with people like this (GMO Roberts) is they are so stupid they do not know how stupid they are. If you are stupid how do you realize how very, very stupid you are. You’d have to be relatively intelligent to realize how stupid you are.”
Researched for death, more like.
shame the results don’t agree with you.
DefinitionBy Mayo Clinic Staff
Antisocial personality disorder is a type of chronic mental condition
in which a person’s ways of thinking, perceiving situations and
relating to others are dysfunctional — and destructive. People with
antisocial personality disorder typically have no regard for right and
wrong and often disregard the rights, wishes and feelings of others.
Those with antisocial personality disorder tend to antagonize,
manipulate or treat others either harshly or with callous indifference.
They may often violate the law, landing in frequent trouble, yet they
show no guilt or remorse. They may lie, behave violently or impulsively,
and have problems with drug and alcohol use. These characteristics
typically make people with antisocial personality disorder unable to
fulfill responsibilities related to family, work or school.
Maybe understanding will help.
Really get help, you can be cured.
How is Antisocial Personality Disorder Diagnosed?
Personality
disorders such as antisocial personality disorder are typically
diagnosed by a trained mental health professional, such as a
psychologist or psychiatrist. Family physicians and general
practitioners are generally not trained or well-equipped to make this
type of psychological diagnosis. So while you can initially consult a
family physician about this problem, they should refer you to a mental
health professional for diagnosis and treatment. There are no
laboratory, blood or genetic tests that are used to diagnose antisocial
personality disorder.
Many people with antisocial personality
disorder don’t seek out treatment. People with personality disorders, in
general, do not often seek out treatment until the disorder starts to
significantly interfere or otherwise impact a person’s life. This most
often happens when a person’s coping resources are stretched too thin to
deal with stress or other life events.
Really before you hurt someone or yourself.
Your condition is serious and should not be ignored.
I have dealt with many folks with mental illness, I’m not an expert but have been trained to recognize and refer the person to a professional in the field.
I’m just trying to help.
One of the most important sciences of our day is Psychology, every other science follows.
This is primarily based on the Environmental Sciences, which allows us to realize that the Science of Environmental is key to today’s World problems. So in truth Environmental Sciences is #1 and Psychological Sciences is #2, all else follows.
As a Leader of a team, knowing and understanding, training and educating creates success, and provides accomplishment and the success of any organizations goals and directives.
We are now ready to learn.
en·vi·ron·ment (ĕn-vī′rən-mənt)
All of the physical, chemical, and biological conditions that together act on an organism or an ecological community and influence its growth and development. Soil, air, water, climate, plant and animal life, noise level, and pollution are all components of an environment. To survive, organisms must often adapt to changes in their environments.
Correct?
Wrong,
environment
1. external conditions or surroundings, esp those in which people live or work
2. (Biology) ecology the external surroundings in which a plant or animal lives, which tend to influence its development and behaviour
3. the state of being environed; encirclement
4. (Computer Science) computing an operating system, program, or integrated suite of programs that provides all the facilities necessary for a particular application: a word-processing environment.
Psychology is dependent on understanding the environmental factors.
You all here are looking at the first definition, psychologically controlled, because of the understanding that the controlling forces have concerning the environment has predetermined and focused your views and thoughts.
Controlled through knowledge and understanding. With out knowledge and understanding, the deck is stacked.
This is where I’m highly trained, Thanks Military and tax payers, I’ll continue to do my best with my extensive knowledge and experience.
Story,
My Daughter was taking a College course in Psychology and she was having troubles. My Wife attempted to help her and still her grade was a D.
So daddy came to the rescue.
To know and understand the conditions of the Environment had to be researched and understood.
The instructors assessments and comments were the telling factor. I broke down the intent of the instructor to my Daughter, he wanted to control and all had to fit into his mindset, it wasn’t about learning but more about spewing his crap. I told my Daughter to know and understand the instructor, give him what he wants.
She got a grade of A-, from daddy’s help. All I did was help her to understand what the tool wanted to see and by knowing him, not the studies, She was provided success.
Yes folks your grade is reflected on complying.
Environment and psychology, Environment first, know and understand.
Psychology 2nd, give them what they want.
Her studies went very well after we knew the Environment and were able to apply psychology to her studies.
She has her degree.
Another story,
I was assigned to support a EFMB qualification course, provide fuel support and act as Cadre for the candidates.
First, recon the site, environmental considerations and provide a realistic view and assessment of the area of operations, I was provided a map and image but onsite is the most effective.
The fueling vehicle was setup on a cement loading dock, met the environmental and spill containment standards, also away from the billeting area and a safe distance from the access points. These considerations also were to meet personnel safety standards.
A Major came up and started me what I was going to do,
Move the fuel point to another area, I explained to him the environmental and safety considerations and the standards, giving him the knowledge that all issues had been considered in my selection of the site.
He said, SGT your going to move this fueling point as ordered.
Since I had already recon’ed the area and this was the only site that met the recommended standards within Federal and Military Regulations, What should have my actions have been?
His environmental considerations were a conflict of interest to mine. Since he was in charge of the whole kit and kaboodle he assumed his evaluation and power trip were the only component of the mission. I’m the expert, he pushes pencils and creates power point presentations to sleep through.
So After he gave me his version of the rank structure and how it is effectively applied as to his expertise, I ordered my refueling detail to pack the truck up and take it back to the motorpool. You should have seen the Soldiers, lmao, and the Major was very pissed off. But I proceeded to tell him I’m the expert here, I have been trained in all aspects concerning refueling and site selection and have integrated safety into the planning and site selections. If your going to order your expert to act in violation of regulation, your expert is going to take his stuff and leave.
Bottom line, his OER was very good and provided him with a career advancing bullet, due to mission success. I’m sure he remembers me, and I truly hope he made it to General.
Understanding the Environment and using the applicable knowledge to educate and enforce the right from the wrong, psychology.
LOL, do you really think that I could run my own business and take care of my family if I had these issues? Of course you being against your own country by wanting to raise the price of food beyond the reach of most. Way to go there Benedict.
I’m just doing what I was told to do.
I know you will refuse the diagnosis, It’s part of the illness.
I told them you’d get the help you need when you get to prison.
They asked me to try because we have bonded, lmao.
And we think we are crazy.
Your talking smack again here Benedict. I would say it is a total stretch to say we have bonded anyway. I do pity you.
I didn’t say it, but I did think it was funny.
You have been professionally evaluated by the way, told you I made some calls, though only a one on one with a professional will be the true course of action in determining your condition.
Lol, keep up your babbling. You only prove that you actually have nothing to offer and are a disgrace to your uniform, that is IF you ever wore one.
I know, thanks
Actually you should have done a little research on ASPD, lmao.The
psychological sciences are very good at making anything a convincing
mental issue. But Anti-social Personality Disorder (ASPD) is just another way of saying someone is an
incurable asshole. He was very nice to you using this wording of his
assessment.
Though he is kind of close, but not quite on target.
I sometimes don’t get enough to eat, even go to bed hungry. The price of food in this country is out-of-sight. But I am simply not going to line my stomach with genetically-modified filth or nanoparticle-infested slime. That’s not food!
That is true and why take a risk if you know it’s going to do some damage in your internal organs?
If you are that stupid then starve. Good wholesome gmos are 100% safe. Organic is expensive and only nutritionally as good as gmos.
You have absolutely NO idea what you are talking about, Roberts. You are wrong about GMOs–DEAD WRONG–if you keep eating them.
Unfortunately he does. He’s a Phi Beta Kappa from the Herman Goring school of business. Repeat the lie til it becomes truth.
Oh now Abe, why do you want to go and say things like that buddy?
And out of the pukey white sky, I heard the thundering lips. I looked and beheld a pale white horse. And on this horse was Bobo. In his right hand he held a bag of GMO seeds. And strapped to the ass of his mount was leather bags with a pale red cross full of GMO vaccines, drugs, vitamins, and herbs. These are his weapons for disease and pestilence. He sowed his deadly seed, and when the sheeple were sickened, he made them worse with his medical aids.
It was written 2K years ago you would come. So here you are. I’m not fooled. Most here aren’t either. Your on the wrong side my friend. I hope your loading up on stocks during the Monsatan fire sale. You’ll make a killing. LMAO.
Wow abe, had no idea you were such a poet!! What other fiction do you write?
LMAO, so you liked that aye? What’s the fiction? The Monsatan stock? Your right, I was hoping to sucker you in. LOL I guess your to smart for that.
Actually I’ve been working on a new version I’ll call “Twas the Night Before Christmas” about the Federal Reserve Act of 1913. LOL It could be more than just Gwyneth we agree on bud?
Don’t worry, I will, and so will the billions that benefit from them daily with zero issues.
Are you serious? What is Monsanto paying you to shill for them?
Yes, anyone that doesn’t agree with you must work for Monsanto right? Why don’t you get me a number, because I would love to get paid for doing what I believe in.
If you spoke out against corrupt companies like Monsanto and Bayer as much as you espouse your love for GMO, then maybe more people would be on your side.
Not a big fan of either of them, but they are two of the ones doing the research and making progress. While I don’t particularly care for Monsanto, I am amazed and impressed by what they have accomplished. For the late nineties as a cash strapped company into the giant they are today.
I view them the same way I view Microsoft, they have done some great research but they’ve also used some horrible tactics. I fully support the smaller companies that have also done some great research, including the ones developing pesticide-free GMO, that is, the ones that dont even need Glyphosate. Read the Vanity Fair article I posted earlier about Monsanto business practices, it’s like the NSA of the corporate world. The smaller companies which dont get the publicity they should are doing much more to advance the field now.
I agree Monsanto is quickly being on the outside looking in on gmos, others are starting to take the lead. As far as a gmo that needs no herbicides? I as a seller of herbicides would be all for it!!
You’ll love it, it will take care of the issue of immunity and will be safer, cheaper and easier to work with. They are talking about them coming out as quickly as next year. Funny thing is, with all the labellers rhetoric, they actually make it harder on the smaller companies. To opposte Monsanto it would be better to completely embrace GMO, that would make it easier on their competition to thrive in the industry and remove a lot of the issues people have with a handful of large corporations dominating the field.
What company is developing them? Or do you have an article I may read?
Yes I will post it in a second. Just responding to your messages first 🙂
I looked back in my history and I saw that I sent this to you 2 months ago. I thought my memory was going lol.
The pesticide thing is tricky. They have developed a GM potato that resists potato blight by inserting 2 genes from 2 types of wild potato (that could not be bred in), but there is already resistance to these plants being cultivated. They’ve also added a spinach gene to orange trees to resist citrus greening, these are also facing much resistance. I mention these because they offer a pesticide free solution to 2 huge agricultural problems which are now currently only controllable with insecticides. The Florida citrus industry alone has to spray massive amounts to control the Asian Citrus Psyllid, which spreads the citrus greening virus. The new orange trees would make that spraying unnecessary. And then there is the GM American Chestnut, where they inserted the genes from the Chinese Chestnut which allows it to resist blight. This will most certainly go into production within the year, with some serious backing to reintroduce these trees to eastern forests.
PS thank you for being civil and willing to have an open discussion.
Your welcome, you have some good thoughts and ideas.
Thanks, I feel that people can come up with good long term solutions when they actually listen to each other, rather than arguing uselessly, where each person goes away with some new piece of knowledge, rather than bitterness.
For the record, I dont support a lot of the things “Chrissy” says either, I click on the links that are provided and many of them dont say the things she’s implying. It makes me feel bad that I get so worked up on something and then find out she spun the story to say something else.
The sad part is how many people believe every word she says, no matter how crazy it is. I don’t expect people to believe me, my goal is to try to get people to do some fact checking for themselves.
It’s like what we see with the TV Media today they like to sensationalize. Likely getting more people to read is all they really want to do, rather than educate or enlighten.
It makes people who do genuine research and fact checking look bad to have someone embellish the truth like that. For example, what I posted to you about Guatemala and what the NSA was up to and awful business practices by Monsanto and Bayer- all of that is well-known and has multiple sources. One can question the ethics without questioning the science. It’s why I like the smaller companies who do great research without veering into ethical grey areas.
I can appreciate that, the only thing is that today it currently costs about $250 million to get a new gmo to market, that leaves a lot of smaller companies behind, or means they can only be working on one at a time.
Yes, and a lot of the problem comes from people who demand labeling and try to blackball GMO, it’s a steep mountain to climb
The main problem is with companies like Monsanto, Bayer, etc controling this industry. Remove these companies that have committed war crimes and poisoned the environment with their chemical weapons and punish them for trying to wiretap and punish whistleblowers, until that gets done Monsanto stock will continue to plummet. People dont like corrupt companies, remove them from the industry if you want your viewpoint to be considered legit.