It’s Official, McDonald’s and Monsanto Are Both ‘Losing Money Fast’
Public awakens to what's really in their food
In a series of headlines that would pass as virtually unbelievable several years ago, mainstream economists are sounding the alarm over the financial decline of both fast food giant McDonald’s and biotech juggernaut Monsanto.
CNN asks, ‘Is McDonald’s doomed?’ Business Insider declares that ‘McDonald’s Is Losing America’ as the company fires its own CEO. What’s happening? As it turns out, the world is starting to ask what they’re truly eating in their food — and the new conglomerate of natural grocers and restaurants are trailblazing the way into an entirely new economic environment. In other words: people are simply tired of shoveling garbage into their bodies, and they’re not going to put up with it anymore.
Here’s just a few of the ingredients you can find in many fast food meals:
- Dimethylpolysiloxane – A chemical known for its use in silicone breast implants, silly putty, and also… chicken nuggets
- Propylene glycol – A laxative chemical and electronic cigarette filler that even e-cigarette companies are beginning to phase out
- Azodicarbonamide – A chemical used in the creation of foamed plastic items like yoga mats
So are you surprised to find that many are turning away from fast food leaders like McDonald’s?
Nations around the world are already rejecting the ensemble of artificial ingredients included in many staple McDonald’s meal options. Back in 2013, their attempts to expand operations in Bolivia were completely shut down by the reality that the Bolivian citizens were not willing to purchase their fast food creations. As reported back in July of 2013:
“McDonald’s restaurants operated in Bolivia for 14 years, according to Hispanically Speaking. In 2002, they had to shutter their final remaining 8 stores because they simply couldn’t turn a profit—and if you know fast food companies, you know it’s not because they didn’t try.
The Golden Arches sunk plenty of money into marketing and campaigning—trying to get the food-loving Bolivians to warm to their French fries and burgers, but it simply wasn’t happening.”
“Are the meals no longer as happy for McDonald’s customers as they used to be? The fast food giant definitely seems worried.
McDonald’s (MCD) reported lackluster quarterly results last week. And company executives used the words “relevance,” “relevant” and “relevancy” a combined 20 times during its conference call with analysts. Translation: the leaders of the Golden Arches are very concerned about whether the company is still relevant.
If you look at the expected growth rates for Mickey D’s biggest burger rivals — as well as upstarts in the so-called fast casual restaurant chain industry — I’d be “Grimace”-ing too. (Sorry. But I miss that purple blob!)”
From Super Bowl commercials to mega marketing campaigns, McDonald’s is shoveling cash into their PR machine — something they have in common with GMO juggernaut Monsanto. Another company that is facing a financial loss amid increased awareness and international import issues. As the Associated Press article ‘Monsanto Loses $156 Million in Fiscal Fourth Quarter’ explains, the multinational corporation has entered a very unique loss period that spells out a lot about the future of its GMO technology:
“Monsanto Co. on Wednesday reported a loss of $156 million in its fiscal fourth quarter.
The St. Louis-based company said it had a loss of 31 cents per share. Losses, adjusted for non-recurring costs, came to 27 cents per share.
The results missed Wall Street expectations. The average estimate of analysts surveyed by Zacks Investment Research was for a loss of 24 cents per share.”
The news comes as Monsanto continues to spend millions in attempts to stop GMO labeling campaigns around the nation, funding opposition groups and ensuring that you don’t know what’s in your food. After all, there’s a reason that 96% of Monsanto shareholders absolutely do not want GMO labeling legislation to pass within the US — it could hurt business.
As information continues to spread on key issues like the prevalence of toxic substances within fast food meals and the reality behind GMOs and their secrecy, there is no doubt that these two companies (and many others) will experience the economic backlash. Will they change in order to meet the new economic shift?
 | Natural Society staff contribution |
Hey, I am from the future (this was written 1 year ago), so how is Non GMO Chipotle doing? Mc Ds is now making money.
Precisely the TPPA has just been agreed. To provide a bail-out for these Neo-Con controlled Multi_Nationals, as there products die.
It also very possible that McDonald’s have simply killed off their customers.
Good job moderator.
Garbage Food….Stop making it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zgz5YUj5BAk
3 months later….
http://www.nasdaq.com/earnings/report/mon
http://www.nasdaq.com/earnings/report/mcd
I wish I was losing money like Monsanto….
My Grandkids are so brainwashed by the food industry they won’t touch real chicken. They want Chicken Nuggets. How is a chicken nugget better than a real chicken. We rarely eat meat in our house because we cannot afford it after paying the organic prices for the rest of our food. I just wish I could find real protein that has not been genetically modified. I am pretty sure we are starving to death for it and the 100 year ban on cannabis needs to be over. The spraying is causing cancer and lung deficiencies the big pharma companies are cleaning up after making everyone sick with these products but their reign over the food industry is over….The people have spoken. We want what our grandparents called real food…Organic. I want to be 100% Organic..Erin Brockovich! What if everyone sued them for this? They better just stop making this garbage food. . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGX4nMrnxg0
We rarely eat meat in our house because we cannot afford it after paying the organic prices for the rest of our food.
Why the hell would you waste your money on Organic food if you can barley afford food in the first place? There is no health benefit ffrom buying Organic and it is not safer either.
I just wish I could find real protein that has not been genetically modified.
No animals are GMOed, so that is easy. There are no GMO nuts either.
..The people have spoken. We want what our grandparents called real food.
Your grandparents didnt eat Organic food either, they used far more dangeous herbicides and insecticides back in the old days..
Um what? Did you know that Organic Food smells better going in and coming out? Get your ass to Mcdonalds. And I would rather pay high prices for food now than try to pay for medical care when I get sick which is much more expensive. Idiocracy!
Hello, most of a mc donalds burger is NON GMO.
Hamburger not gmo
wheat not GMO
WTF???
Oh course it IS? Do you have any education at all? Most of the burger is murdered kidnapped children. But that’s none of my business since I do not eat there.
All I have to say is WOW, you are crazier than I thought.
i am thinking that if you really do have kids, maybe you should talk to the social welfare folks.
You are GMO I just figured it out
Explain that to the family services employees that come to visit you tomorrow? Feeding your kids nothing but toast ? But i think that is a lie as well, but hey explain that to the government officials that will come to visit.
Rigggghhhttt….
Well you linked you discus account to you Facebook account, want me to name your friends??
My address is not there. You are evil. I suggest going to hell. I don’t live with the grandkids you are attacking me now for being poor? Wow bro low blow. Mcds must be paying you alot of money to care so much about this
I dont have any kids….only grandkids. Ask the government employee if they could survive on 189.00 a month for food. Yeah they would live on toast or starve.
Well then why did you outright LIE, like come on,
Your Rabbi Finkelstein aren’t you>?? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zgz5YUj5BAk
So you’d rather smell your farts and poop than shop intelligently, and you’re claiming idiocracy?
All-righty, then!
Wow, she would rather starve her kids then give them conventional food , this is scary
2 weeks out of the month we live on toast and milk. When we can have good real food? Then I have every right to want to have it. ZOmbie commerical watching brainwashed idiocracy
You are insane, even organic activists would say the same. Buy the food that you need and if you have extra money buy organic if you choose. Like really..
I am insane? I am not the one copy and pasting someone else’s words trying to discredit an honest response. They better start serving Organic or they will go ALL THE WAY out of business ….
Wow, I did not paste anyone’s words. and no companies that serve GMO even in Europe are not going out of business. Really no one cares.
I dont normally do this but I contacted the child welfare service, in your town, i would hide the bong and make sure that the is some actual food in the house.
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Crash and burn.
The five year trend for Monsanto (MON) stocks looks quite steady, at least according to NASDAQ. I would like to know who your “economists” are making statements they they are ‘losing fast.’ What this looks like to me, is more people need to get out there and protest Monsanto, this fight is not over…..it has just begun. Might want to check your facts a little better #naturalsociety!
I wish I was losing money like Monsanto, only 395 million in profit sounds pretty good to me.
Look at my Avatar picture…. This is how any fast food products should be approached.
nuff said.
I wish the best for McDonalds. After all, they are the ultimate all American success story. I hope they adapt and update their menu to include fresh Organic food and rise again to the ultimate American fast food joint.
I hate to disagree, but I think that is their problem. They should go back to doing what they did well and stop listening to the fringe that doesn’t even eat there. Cheap, Fast, decent tasting food made McDonalds and there sales are dropping because they lost focus with salads and fancy coffee.
As consumers, we have so much power. I do something that I wish others would do too. Whenever I stop buying a product for a specific reason, I take the time to find an email address for the company and let them know EXACTLY why I will no longer buy from them. For example, I have stopped buying Heinz Ketchup because they do business with Monsanto. I told them as long as they continue to buy products from Monsanto, I will not buy their product. I told Nestle that I will no longer purchase Tidy Cats litter because their chairman believes access to water is not a human right but a commodity that should be sold by corporations to consumers. Tell them why so they cannot deny why sales are dropping.
This is great news! What quality of food would you expect from a Zionist owned company?! They don’t care for yours or your children’s health. They only see dollars! These ruthless scum of the earth Zionist killers are destroyers of peace and our beautiful world, and our children. McDonalds also funds Zionist terrorism and the murder of thousands of children and innocent people. A fucking joke when they have a Mchappy day! A marketing sham to generate more sales and to look decent to the public. Their sales are also declining recently more than ever from boycotting, but no mention of it. People are becoming more aware of what Zionism stands for! Evil and death! Avoid Zionist products and live healthy, live strong, live in peace!
I really don’t understand the corporate mindset. It can’t be that difficult to produce a burger and fries that isn’t going to kill you? As part of a balanced diet this can still be a once a week treat if they ditched all the crap. So why don’t they?
Who wants to eat their crap.
Farmers are waking up too:
“Five years ago the traits worked,” says the strongly built Huegerich, who followed in his father’s footsteps and planted GMO seeds. “I didn’t have corn rootworm because of the Bt gene, and I used less
pesticide. Now, the worms are adjusting, and the weeds are resistant. Mother Nature adapts.”
Staring at a future of lower corn prices and higher inputs, Huegerich decided to experiment. Two years ago, he planted 320 acres of conventional corn and 1,700 with GMO corn. To his delight, the
conventional fields yielded 15 to 30 more bushels per acre than the GMO fields, with a profit margin of up to $100 more per acre. And so in 2013, he upped the ante, ordering six varieties of conventional seeds for close to 750 acres and GMOs for his remaining acres.
http://modernfarmer.com/2013/12/post-gmo-economy/
To those who will be happy with better Happy Meals: The GMO’s have a certain mentality that says “if some is good than more is better” which means as soon as people forget about the poison it will be back! Don’t be fooled. They pull this all the time. There will never be healthy “fast and fried” anything!
As people continue to eat less corpses, watch these multinationals crumble to the ground..
Nobody wants to feed their children artery clogging, cancer causing flesh and dairy..
Organic Fruits and Veggies all the way…
Suck a dick Monsanto and McDonalds
Your days are numbered
My child enjoys a rib eye with me at least a couple times a month. Throw on top of that his favorite meal.. fried chicken… leaves me thinking that the “flesh” business isn’t going away anytime soon.
Somebody needs a bit of a reality check here…
To each his/her own, but if your kid’s favorite meal is fried chicken – well, that’s nothing to be proud of. Do you also serve him up a side of watermelon and grape soda? The two of you ever split a pack of Kools when the wife isn’t watching? lol…… talk about needing a reality check.
Where did pride come into this at all? Maybe you could help me with my reality check? Here’s one for you… 8 yr olds don’t often care how healthy something is when deciding whether they like it. Although if you’re not enjoying a little fried chicken from time to time, then that’s your own loss.
An 8 year old shouldn’t be consuming a happy meal with a diet coke … many would consider that child endangerment.
Uumm… Ok. Sure…you go right ahead & believe what you want to believe.
Do you really think that a “happy meal” and a diet coke are good for your child?
Quoted you from above: “Ok. Sure…you go right ahead & believe what you want to believe.”
Go ahead & show me anywhere that I have said that. I’ll wait.
Here we go again, telling me or anyone what I can feed my child. There is nothing wrong with children having a happy meal once in awhile. They also eat fresh fruit too but I wonder how much pesticides or ? it contains? Especially as a lot of fruit is from outside Canada and the Us?
Didn’t mean to be a hamburglar or any such thing.
I do think you are right to wonder about the pesticides.
Feeding children wheat grass smoothies and Kale, is cruel and unusual punishment according to many.
I definitely agree, especially to people whose diet consists primarily of fast food and processed food with 70% sugar and flour content that wash it all down with soda. But I think they’ll just have to get over the fact that some people have the intelligence to feed their children food that actually has nutritional value.
8 year olds DO NOT GET to choose what they eat, they should bet fed healthy foods. Feed your kids that crap if you want. When they weigh over 200 lbs. and they are only 10 years old you might get it
Nobody said they did get to choose, did they? Maybe you need to lighten up a bit?
Jason, because of you chickens are suffering enormously…why would you want to contribute to that? Oh, because your own pleasure is all you care about…that is why. Enjoy your fried chicken because you are going to hell when you die. I know this!
Chickens are suffering? You’ve spoke to the chickens? Well, luckily, they’re not around long so I suppose the suffering is breif.
Obviously you have never been to a slaughterhouse in your life. They slit the chicken’s throat to kill them and it takes 16 min at an extremely high pain level to die from having your throat slit.
Uuhh…no. it doesn’t. Nice try, though.
Dude the slaughterhouse must be filled must be a sociopaths right???
I know this!
How would you know? Are you already there?
FYY misguided parent,
frying removes all the nutrients from food! Try Steamed or grilled.
grilling with cheap oil is actually harmful for your health.
“flesh” business today is worthless thank in parts to large corporations trying to boot the little guy out of business by flooding the market with corporate welfare products such as GMO corn and or growth hormone chicken, beef and or pork.
If you ever had the pleasure of tasting grass fed beef, you will never again go back to corn fed beef.
Had you taken some sort of mathematics class in H.S, you’d know that chickens are fed junk, pumped with junk, then sold to the public as healthy. … that formula just doesn’t compute.
…. some parents shouldn’t be allowed to raise children.
Well, of course. Clearly, you know what’s best for everyone. And even though you somehow have come to the conclusion that mathematics courses teach animal husbandry, we are all supposed to follow your lead!
If any of that garbage were true, you should have no trouble producing evidence for it. I’ll wait.
Elitist boob.
“Elitist” is a word which is best left unused unless you know its meaning and when to employ it. You have misused it.
There is nothing “elitist” about being healthy and wanting others to be healthy.
I believe you’ve misused the word “misused”. From my vantage point, drawing the conclusion that everyone will share your opinions if and when they are lucky enough to have been enlightened by the experience of trying them is a very elitist opinion. “My opinions are the only correct ones”.
Seems, to me, that I nailed that one.
You have failed again and again and again.
I would suggest to you 40 years of silence.
Good thing I’m not too concerned about your suggestions.
Perhaps this is good for you, but not for the rest of us!
Jason, enjoy being a complete asshole because you are going to hell when you die. Why? Because you deserve it!
you seem to deserve a big black penis in your asshole and I don’t see you receiving that sooooo
Clearly, YOU know (or think you know) what’s best for everyone.
You have provided much evidence that such is not the case.
Jason…Just allow your son to watch some of videos online which shows the conditions under which animals/fish/fowl are raised and then murdered…Let your son see some reality as he see workers ‘wringing’ the necks of the fowl with blood running down the walls…Let him listen to the cattle roaring in screams as the men take an ax to its head…I am 63-years young…I watched those videos and made a commitment to never eat meat…I am now an organic vegetarian…who may be vegan by the end of this year…I do think both of you reality checks…How old is you son…? Is he old enough to understand the word ‘murder’…?
Nice try. I’ve lived right in the middle of agriculture country and worked with farmers my whole life. There were hog & cattle farms in every direction. I’ve watched my grandfather butcher chickens for dinner. I know exactly how animals are raised & treated and Id have no problem with my son seeing any of it. I’m not surprised your education on the matter came from videos. It sounds like you’ve arrived at exactly the opinion the director wanted you to arrive at. Congrats on that.
P.S. The Italian sausage we had for dinner tonight was delicious.
Jason, how much they are paying you to come here and destabilize the conversation? Fast food is terrible. Thats a fact. Its going down. Fact 2. People are waking up, fact 3.
If your conversation can be “destabalized” by a little bit of reality, your probably engaging in the wrong conversation. Heaven forbid a little bit of truth were involved.
JASON-you ought to be ASHAMED of yourself! Sticking up for causing pain to innocent animals! It is nothing short of DISGUSTING! Have fun in hell when you die!
Pain? These animals are killed swiftly and with little pain. besides…it’s their fault for tasting so good.
Obviously you were lying when you said that you have witnessed animal butcherings…I have and it takes the animal 16 min to die to bleed out from having their throat slit. I looked up the pain level and it is very high…bleeding out is an extremely painful and slow death. I actually started a petition to try to get McDonalds to shoot the animals in the head instant because that is a relatively instant death with relatively low pain but the industry is hell bent on slitting their throats which is always a slow and agonizing death. It is possible that it is the animal’s fault because I have a theory that meat eaters get reincarnated into the animals that they ate. You have to admit this would be justice. You can’t say that having done to you what you did to others is not justice. BUT I do not know this for a fact, so it would be wrong of me to assume that all animals are deserving of what they get but they might be. That being said even if I knew this for a fact I would still not eat them because it would be that I would be reincarnated into an animal to be eaten and I would deserve it. I like to set myself up for pleasure and not pain.
The animal is stunned and brain dead before they are bled out. There is no pain, other than the split second of a bolt to the brain or an electric shock. This step is required by law. So your campaign may be a little unnecessary.
Now it is obvious that you have never seen a slaughtering. The Captive bolt gun does not work! Right after it is performed and they hang the cow upside down the cow starts twitching! When the cow is cut into she screams in agony and this is why the meat industry do not show you the kill floor. Oprah can an associate take a tour of a big slaughterhouse and they did not let her record the kill floor and the reason for that is because if you see it you know how much the animals suffer. That is why their needs to be undercover films taken because the meat industry refuses to show it. The meat industry has so much to hide that they are spending a lot of money to pay lawyers to get “AG-GAG” bills which makes it illegal to secretly record slaughter footage and factory farm footage. Now why would they go to all this trouble to hide their actions if the animals didn’t suffer? I have yet to see a slaughter video that is not disturbing. And the meat industry is a billions of dollar a year industry..mcdonalds spends a billion a year on advertisting alone and you expect me to believe that if animals really didn’t suffer that they would stick by and allow people to believe that the animals do suffer if they could simply record a video showing the animals not suffering? The money spent on advertising for animal rights groups is only a tiny fraction of what the meat industry has to spend and yet 100% of the slaughter videos are disturbing and 0% are not disturbing. How do you explain this? Why is there not a single video out there showing slaughter that is not disturbing to the viewer? Morals tell us to do onto others like we want done to ourselves so how would you like it if you or your kid were butchered and I said that it is ok because they experienced no pain from it and they tasted good?
Yah… Sure. Whatever.
I’m got a couple rib eyes in my fridge for plan on grilling tonight. I’ll let you know how they turn out.
Wow, you’re a real he-man! I bet you have a big truck with big fat tires too!
I do have a truck…but unfortunately it’s a small truck with normal sized tires. Maybe next time.
Also… They were delicious. Real lump charcoal is the way to go!
Considering how obvious it is that your identity revolves around eating meat, you should consider moving up to a bigger pickup with oversize tires, and you can get a bumper sticker that says PETA -Peale Eating Tasty Animals to demonstrate to the world what an Alpha Male you are. I’m just saying!
Anyone who’s identity revolves around the food they eat probably ought to get a better identity. Mine revolves around enjoying my life and sometimes a good steak or some tasty fried chicken is part of that. Other times poking fun at evirozealots is also a part of that. What can I say? I’m a complex individual.
That reply was a great dodge of the answer after someone did come up with “Heaven forbid a little bit of truth were involved.”
Thanks for the compliment…but I must admit… I’m not sure what answer it was that I dodged. So I’ll have to confess that my great dodge may have been accidental.
I had a zealot making a bunch of claims that weren’t true and didn’t feel like going round after round with him. He seemed a bit “stuck in his ways”.
That’s somewhat amusing saying you “didn’t feel like going round after round with him” considering you do that continuously. He made a point about the Ag gag laws that protect these corporate farms from being exposed for abuse and prosecute the whistleblower instead of the criminal and all you could do is make a stupid smart-ass remark. I call that a dodge and obviously you did know what post I was talking about. Incidentally, your welcome for the compliment!
Continuously? I’d love to have that sort of time. I don’t mind a good debate involving facts. I get bored arguing with whack job conspirists with radical opinions.
And again… What exactly am I dodging?
A little truth like the vast majority of livestock are raised on CAFOs like Smithfield, Butterball, Tyson, JBS and Cargil. They live in horrible conditions and are fed an unnatural diet of GMO corn, growth hormones, antibiotics, a slew of pharmaceuticals that contain carcinogenic chemicals like Ractopine and Arsenic. So please don’t act like just because your neighbors slaughter their livestock humanely that it’s the norm.
Guess you’ve not been around animals much. You’re describing the activist picture of how animal operations work… Not the reality of how animal operations work.
But, if that the picture you want to keep, by all means…don’t let me stop you.
Yea, I don’t work in a CAFO but I’ve seen enough evidence accross the past 40 years to know that animals that are raised in them have a very painful existence. Just because you think it’s cool because it’s not happening to you doesn’t mean it’s not real. In addition to the cruel methods that the animals are raised there are other major issues like the fact they can have 100,000 pigs on one farm and each pig produces the feces of 10 humans. These CAFOs don’t have sewage processing facilities and all of the feces get collected in lagoons that end up in local rivers. There feces contain excessive amounts of antibioitics, hormones and all the pharmaceuticals that they’re fed to make them grow to full weight in a significantly shorter time than natural breeding.
http://www.ucsusa.org/sites/default/files/legacy/assets/documents/food_and_agriculture/cafos-uncovered.pdf
Yea, I don’t work in a CAFO but I’ve seen enough evidence across the
past 40 years to know that animals that are raised in them have a very
painful existence. Just because you think it’s cool because it’s not
happening to you doesn’t mean it’s not real. In addition to the cruel
methods that the animals are raised there are other major issues like
the fact they can have 100,000 pigs on one farm and each pig produces
the feces of 10 humans. These CAFOs don’t have sewage processing
facilities and all of the feces get collected in lagoons that end up in
local rivers. There feces contain excessive amounts of antibiotics,
hormones and all the pharmaceuticals that they’re fed to make them grow
to full weight in a significantly shorter time than natural breeding. But you keep pretending it’s all warm and fuzzy and I’ll keep posting facts. There’s plenty of books written about it and plenty of articles written about it too. Anyone that wants to know about it can google: “The Untold Costs of Confined Feeding Operations:”.
And, I suppose just because you think it makes for a good story doesn’t mean it’s happening. Goes both ways.
I’ve been in Ag 20 years now. I’ve been on countless animal farms, large & small. One of the biggest dairies in the nation is right up the road from me. So I have a pretty good picture of what we’re dealing with.
Those “lagoons” don’t end up in rivers. They end up spread back on all the fields surrounding the animal operation. Not only are there strict environmental regulations on this, but It’s a money source (fertilizer) for the operation. The nonsense about it being filled with antibiotics & pharmaceuticals is just that… Nonsense.
This is exactly why I stepped away from the last argument. You’ve got your activist image of how animal farms operate. And regardless of whether it’s accurate or not, your going to push your moral viewpoint onto anyone who might disagree. Frankly, it’s a bore. I honestly don’t give a rats ass what you think about animal farming. So, rather than get into this round & round about it, I declined.
So…congrats for dragging me back in!
We got it, if you didn’t witness it, it didn’t happen! Read this article from the CDC called “Understanding Concentrated Animal Feeding Operations and Their Impact on Communities” You can google it. It exposes ground water and surface water contamination, air quality, greenhouse gasses emitted, odors that effect whole cities, insect vectors, pathogens and property values of surrounding the CAFOs. But I bet the CDC is only legitimate when they’re defending GMOs right? Or you could read this one:
Environ Health Perspect 121:A182-A189 (2013). http://dx.doi.org/10.1289/ehp.121-a182 [online 01 June 2013]
Then tell me they’re just a bunch of lies made up by activists.
We got it, if you didn’t witness it, it didn’t happen! Read this article
from the CDC called “Understanding Concentrated Animal Feeding
Operations and Their Impact on Communities” You can google it. It
exposes ground water and surface water contamination, air quality,
greenhouse gasses emitted, odors that effect whole cities, insect
vectors, pathogens and property values of surrounding the CAFOs. But I bet the CDC is only legitimate when they’re defending GMOs, right? Or you could google and read this one:
“Environ Health Perspect 121:A182-A189 (2013)[online 01 June 2013]”
Then tell me they’re just a bunch of lies made up by activists.
Sooo… According to the CDC, Lagoons can have environmental impacts if managed improperly. This falls squarely under the “no shit” category. (No pun intended) Maybe THAT’S why these operations are so closely monitored?
Nice try again, that article exposed widespread devastation not just an isolated incident. Since you obviously didn’t read it and all you’re interested in doing is defending another despicable industry I will post some facts from the CDC assessment:
“The EPA’s 2000 National Water Quality Inventory found that 29 states specifically identified animal feeding operations, not just concentrated animal feeding operations, as contributing to water quality impairment”
“If a CAFO has contaminated a water system, community members should be concerned about nitrates and nitrate poisoning. Elevated nitrates in drinking water can be especially harmful to infants, leading to blue baby syndrome and possible death. Nitrates oxidize iron in hemoglobin in red blood cells to
methemoglobin”
“In addition to polluting ground and surface water, CAFOs also contribute to the reduction of air quality in areas surrounding industrial farms. Animal feeding operations produce several types of air emissions,including gaseous and particulate substances, and CAFOs produce even more emissions due to their size. The primary cause of gaseous emissions is the decomposition of animal manure, while particulate substances are caused by the movement of animals.”
Here’s a list of Typical pollutants found in air surrounding CAFOs:
Ammonia
Hydrogen Sufide
Methane
Fecal matter, feed materials, pollen, bacteria, fungi, skin cells, silicates
“One of the most common complaints associated with CAFOs are the odors produced. The odors that CAFOs emit are a complex mixture of ammonia, hydrogen sulfide, and carbon dioxide, as well as volatile and semi-volatile organic compounds (Heederik et al., 2007). These odors are worse than smells formerly associated with smaller livestock farms. The anaerobic reaction that occurs when manure is stored in pits or lagoons for long amounts of time is the primary cause of the smells. Odors from waste are carried away from farm areas on dust and other air particles. Depending on things like weather conditions and farming techniques, CAFO odors can be smelled from as much as 5 or 6 miles away”
“CAFOs and their waste can be breeding grounds for insect vectors. Houseflies, stable flies, and mosquitoes are the most common insects associated with CAFOs.”
“Pathogens are parasites, bacterium, or viruses that are capable of causing disease or infection in animals or humans. The major source of pathogens from CAFOs is in animal manure. There are over 150 pathogens in manure that could impact human health. Many of these pathogens are concerning because they can cause severe diarrhea. Healthy people who are exposed to pathogens can generally recover quickly, but those who have weakened immune systems are at increased risk for severe illness or death. Those at higher risk include infants or young children, pregnant women, the elderly, and those who are immunosuppressed, HIV positive, or have had chemotherapy. This risk group now roughly compromises 20% of the U.S. population.”
Before you try to minimize the impacts read the whole article, don’t just pretend it’s about an isolated incident, because it’s not.
Widespread devastation?? Are you for real!? That piece is a reference guide for local health organizations to help understand what some of the potential problems can be. It even states that right up front! “We trust that the information provided in this guide will enable board of health members to develop and sustain monitoring programs, investigate developing policy related to CAFOs, and create partnerships with other local and state agencies and officials to improve the health and well-being of communities everywhere.”
Where, anywhere, does it make any sort of claim about widespread devastation?? Their conclusion states: “Concentrated animal feeding operations or large industrial animal farms can cause a myriad of environmental and public health problems. While they can be maintained and operated properly, it is important to ensure that they are routinely monitored to avoid harm to the surrounding community.” Let’s see…. Which one of us was saying that these operations could pose problems if not managed properly?? Hmmmmm….
You don’t seem to want to accept that there are ways to manage these issues so that they do not present health problems for the community. Why? The CDC seems to think there is. Is this piece is just lip service? And if so, why are you referencing it??
I’m sure you can find examples of where individual operations have violated regulations. That does NOT mean that it’s indicative of how the industry operates. That’s kinda the reason these regulations need to exist.
I did get a pretty good chuckle at the quotes you used that supposedly supported your scenario of “widespread devastation” though. Thanks for that.
I’m not surprised that someone from the “if I hadn’t seen it, it didn’t happen” school of thought to believe that it’s not widespread if it didn’t effect me.
Are you aware that the average pig poops more than 10 times the amount of a human and a cow poops 20 to 30 times more than a human? When combine that fact with the fact that many CAFOS have as much as 100,00 pigs or cows you have the quantity of feces of a city of a million to 3 million people. But guess what, because those giant corporate farms have so much political influence, they don’t even need to have sewage processing plants for them, they just collect in a toxic stew of antibiotic, hormone and pharmaceutical laced feces in those lagoons that you pretend are so well regulated. I have a news flash for you, if they were so well regulated they wouldn’t be collecting in lagoons that can easily runoff into surrounding waterways and drinking water supplies, they would be channeled into a sewage processing facility.
Here’s some more scientific articles about the extensive damage damage done by CAFOs
You can google any of these titles to get the actual scientific articles:
“Availability of Information about Airborne Hazardous Releases from Animal Feeding Operations”
“Environmental Impact of Industrial Farm Animal Production”
“Environmental exposure to confined animal feeding operations and respiratory health of neighboring residents”
“Concentrated swine feeding operations and public health: a review of occupational and community health effects.”
“Impacts of waste from concentrated animal feeding operations on water quality”
The effect of these CAFOs is widespread and so is the documentation that exposes it. Keep pretending it’s no big deal and I’ll keep posting more articles about the extensive effects of them.
Incidentally, I know you don’t give a shit, that’s rather obvious, I wouldn’t be doing this if I was on a corporate front group website like the GLP, but we’re on an environmental comment section and most people on this comment section do give a shit.
Yah…I’m aware of how much a pig can poop. And we’ll need every bit of that if organic farming continues to grow.
As I suspected…everything is a big corporate conspiracy…. After all, how could it be that you’d be wrong? It’s far more likely that there’s a big conspiracy that’s been active for decades that no ones been able to uncover.
And to clarify… I give a shit about a lot of things. Your conspiratorial opinions are just not one of those things.
Good day!
Big corporate conspiracy? Are you so naive that you don’t believe that those powerful corporations don’t have any influence on politicians? If that’s so, then humor me, why would a CAFO that has the shit of a city of a potentially millions of people wouldn’t have to be processed by a sewage processing plant? Particularly if that shit has concentrations of hormones, antibiotics and pharmaceuticals? Have you ever heard of a city in the U.S. that has a million people that doesn’t funnel their sewage into a processing plant? How about even a small city of 25000 people? And there is extensive documentation of groundwater and surface water contamination and the corporations are rarely held accountable for it. Are you really stupid enough to believe that paid off politicians are involved in that?
Ho, and incidentally, I can assure you that that toxic waste from the CAFOs along with the toxic waste from city sewers with the toxic chemicals in it is not applied to Organic crops, only Conventional ones. But again, nice try!
You’re wrong again. There are no regulations in organic farming stating that the manure had to be produced from organicly raised animals. Where do you think all the nitrogen comes from?
As for why they aren’t managed like a sewage plant, one reason could be because human waste isn’t spread back onto surrounding farm acreage. Animal waste is.
I know… politicians being paid off is the simple crutch to make any conspiracy make sense. And the really useful thing is that it’ll fit almost any conspiracy!
USDA Website Organic standards- The USDA organic seal verifies that irradiation, sewage sludge, synthetic fertilizers, prohibited pesticides, and genetically modified
organisms were not used”
I’ll ask the question again- why would a CAFO that has the shit of a
city of a potentially millions of people wouldn’t have to be processed
by a sewage processing plant? Particularly if that shit has
concentrations of hormones, antibiotics and pharmaceuticals?
Do you see the words “animal manure from conventional farms” in that list anywhere? I thought not.
That’s the little secret about organic farming. They can’t use synthetic fertilizers, but manure produce from animals who were fed grain from synthetically fertilized fields is ok. It’s the same nitrogen!
But that’s a topic for another argument.
Regarding your last question…did I not give a reason? As for any others, I don’t know enough about municipal sewage treatment to know if it would apply. But I do know that our state licenses, monitors and regulates every large operations manure storage in the state and requires a management plan be on file.
I don’t know enough about municipal sewage treatment to know if it would apply
Well they should not treat animal sewage, it would take all the plant nutrition out of it.
Yes absolutely, there’s no need for sewage processing plants when some corporations profits would have to pay for it! Just screw all those people that live downstream from the CAFOs, right? These scientific articles are all just lies anyway because they aren’t glorifying GMOs anyway, right?
Impacts of waste from concentrated animal feeding operations on water quality JA Burkholder, B Libra, P Weyer, S Heathcote… – Environmental health …, 2007 – JSTOR
The
potential role of concentrated animal feeding operations in infectious disease epidemics and antibiotic resistance-MJ Gilchrist, C Greko, DB Wallinga… – Environmental health
Industrialized animal
production—a major source of nutrient and microbial pollution to aquatic ecosystems- MA Mallin, LB Cahoon – Population and Environment, 2003 – Springer
Environmental injustice in North Carolina’s hog industry.
S Wing, D Cole, G Grant – Environmental Health Perspectives, 2000
Community and environmental health effects of concentrated animal feeding operations.
SR Kirkhorn – Minnesota Medicine, 2002
A meta-analysis of the effect of environmental contamination and positive amenities on residential real estate values RA Simons, JD Saginor – Journal of Real Estate Research, 2006 – ARES
Assessment and management of watershed microbial contaminants- E James, M Joyce – Critical Reviews in Environmental Science and …, 2004 – Taylor & Francis
EPA’s Proposed CAFO Regulations Fall Short of Ensuring the Integrity of Our Nation’s Waters, M Steeves – J. Land Resources & Envtl. L., 2002 – HeinOnline
If you treat the sewage and remove all the nutrients what are they going to spray on the Organic kale??? Ground up puppies? Unicorn horns? The area 51 aliens? Aging leprechauns?
With all that talent as troll that you have, it would be such a shame if you weren’t getting paid from the some right wing think tank like the Heritage Foundation or the American Enterprise Institute like your mentors Entine and Popoff!
LOL, if I even knew what these things were, I would most likely pay them to make fun of fools like you….
So your mouth is leaking sewage over here too?
So not only do you know nothing about Agriculture, you know nothing about sewage treatment… Way to keep up the 0.0000% batting average.
Hurry up you have comments waiting on 5 other sights.
Well, should we listen to Jason, I guess we can just ignore the fact that the paint industry and the fuel industry spent $$$ billions promoting the idea that lead, known to be highly toxic for thousands of years, posed absolutely no health risk to the public and could be indiscriminately pumped into the environment in massive amounts without any harmful effects.
No, no, we can’t talk about that. It would be a “big corporate conspiracy” theory, and therefore subject to being immediately dismissed and given no consideration.
hey don’t even need to have sewage processing plants for them, they just collect in a toxic stew of antibiotic, hormone and pharmaceutical laced feces in those lagoons that you pretend are so well regulated.
Hey don’t mock the poop, that is what gets sprayed on the organic crops.. It is 100% certified Organic fertilizer.
Bullshit, if it’s applied to organic it’s not from a CAFO that fed the pigs antibiotics, growth hormones and pharmaceuticals.
Show me your source for that
You can find all the USDA Organic rules from here, look it up. http://www.ams.usda.gov/AMSv1.0/NOPOrganicStandards
Isnt that why they put the poop in a lagoon so it doesn’t get into the river? Like Duh. I don’t think that these folks have ever seen a farm.
They apparently also haven’t bothered to look into how well managed waste lagoons actually work either.
Like really, do they not think? If a farmer doesn’t have a lagoon, where is he going to put all the waste??
Exactly! Here’s a few scientific articles that have researched “how well manged” they are!
Impacts of waste from concentrated animal feeding operations on water quality
JA Burkholder, B Libra, P Weyer, S Heathcote… – Environmental health …, 2007 – JSTOR
The potential role of concentrated animal feeding operations in infectious disease epidemics and antibiotic resistance-MJ Gilchrist, C Greko, DB Wallinga… – Environmental health
Industrialized animal production—a major source of nutrient and microbial pollution to aquatic ecosystems- MA Mallin, LB Cahoon – Population and Environment, 2003 – Springer
Environmental injustice in North Carolina’s hog industry.
S Wing, D Cole, G Grant – Environmental Health Perspectives, 2000
Community and environmental health effects of concentrated animal feeding operations.
SR Kirkhorn – Minnesota Medicine, 2002
A meta-analysis of the effect of environmental contamination and positive amenities on residential real estate values RA Simons, JD Saginor – Journal of Real Estate Research, 2006 – ARES
Assessment and management of watershed microbial contaminants
E James, M Joyce – Critical Reviews in Environmental Science and …, 2004 – Taylor & Francis
EPA’s Proposed CAFO Regulations Fall Short of Ensuring the Integrity of Our Nation’s Waters, The
M Steeves – J. Land Resources & Envtl. L., 2002 – HeinOnline
I found it very interesting that your very first article recommends some best practices for manure management, most of which are standard practice in the state of Indiana. I also noticed they DID NOT say these operations were causing “widespread devastation”.
They basically said the same thing I’ve been saying. Managed poorly, they can cause some problems…problems that can be minimized by proper managment techniques.
Your 2nd doesn’t address animal operations and your third is an old paper recommending new regulations to govern CAFOs…regulations like individual permits. Which, as I stated earlier…we’re already doing.
Oddly…none are recommending getting rid of animal feeding operations to avoid “widespread devastation”. I wonder why? It’s probably that politician that everyone is paying off.
The first CDC assessment stated: “The EPA’s 2000 National Water Quality Inventory found that 29 states specifically identified animal feeding operations, not just concentrated animal feeding operations, as contributing to water quality impairment (Congressional Research Service, 2008).”
I would say 29 states is pretty widespread.
How would you manage “manure production can range between 2,800 tons and 1.6 million tons a year” if it’s just getting put into lagoons adjacent to rivers? You can’t, that’s why it allways ends up in the water supply. But keep on defending it, apparently you don’t live downstream from it, so why would you care? You get your cheap bacon, that’s what’s most important-right?
“The EPA’s 2000 National Water Quality Inventory found that 29 states specifically identified….”
I’d bet that’s why regulations have changed considerably since then. I don’t know of any lagoons adjacent to river in my area, but I suppose it’s possible elsewhere. Although I’d be awful surprised if there weren’t state regulations preventing that. And I already told you how you manage the manure. Crop land in our area is pretty large. You could spread that much liquid manure without breaking a sweat.
And bacon’s not exactly cheap right now. But it’s worth it.
I think you misunderstood what I meant by “first”. I meant the University of Iowa piece you posted right before my recent reply. Not the CDC pice you reference much earlier.
problems that can be minimized by proper managment techniques.
Like lagoons
These CAFOs don’t have sewage processing
facilities and all of the feces get collected in lagoons that end up in
local rivers.
Nope, all that eccesse poop is sprayed or slit injected into you favorite Organic food,, Yeah organic….
Liar, it wouldn’t pass for Organic with all of the hormones, pharmaceuticals and antibiotics in it. Nice try though!
I this some sort of parody?
Do you mean is it a parody like you pretending to be a farmer and then spend 10 to 15 hours a day being a troll on Disqus?
LOL do more than you before 8 am. Nice response in under 10 min.
Yes, I’ve noticed how many posts you make each day, that’s a lot more than I do!
If you google: “Biosolids: Targeted National Sewage Sludge Survey Report – Overview” you will get a EPA document concerning the chemicals detected in the sewer sludge that they use on conventional crops. Here’s an excerpt from it:
“Results include minimum and maximum concentrations for 145 different
analytes, including four anions (nitrite/nitrate, fluoride, water
extractable phosphorus), 28 metals, four polycyclic aromatic
hydrocarbons, two semivolatile chemicals, 11 PBDEs, 72 pharmaceuticals,
and 25 steroids and hormones.”
They only use this chemical soup poop on conventional crops, did I mention that? I guess you can call it an EPA parody if it makes you feel better!
hyperzombie is a paid shill…. ignore
And you are a child abuser
after this whole brooo Ha ha, what do you lie? You have no kids at home. and don’t even look after you grand kids that often? Why Lie?
Seriously, I want to know, what is the motificaton to lie about your circunsatces?
you must be brain dead.
Good that you’ve taken the time to put forth a thought out, well reasoned response. I’ll consider this….
Fast food isn’t food, if one eats it, one must not love their bodies. Hopefully more people will wake up.
He’ll ya grew up in a farming community…played sports through highschool, currently a firefighter, go to the gym, etc..and i still enjoy a nice fast food meal from time to time. We just got some Sally’s that get to caught up with “eating healthy” they dont realize how big of assholes they become trying to push healthy foods on other people. This isn’t the place to get into GMO plants though….BTW im also very healthy. Its all about moderation America
I agree with you completely, Jason. I’m a cancer survivor at 40. My oncologist told me to eat whatever I want within reason, cancer is a luck of the draw that is just written in your DNA. Stress can trigger cancer just as much as eating meat. So does that mean you quit your job. I don’t like this culture of fear. We can eliminate junk from our diet but to go so radical and vicious against people who choose to eat meat like mankind has done for hundred thousands of years. It’s just ridiculous. I’m glad you teach your son not to live a life of fear and eat things like steak within moderation. You sound like a great parent.
Thanks! I agree that fear mongering is pointless and counter productive. Glad to hear you’re a survivor! I hope for many more years!
Factory farms are different from the farmers that love their animals and treat them well and slaughter with dignity. Factory farms are sop bad they don’t allow people in or take pictures. They are really horrific.
Ok… You go right ahead & believe what ever the activist websites tell you. After all, what posdible agenda could they be pushing??
There’s always the option of grass fed beef or pasture raised eggs if one wants to continue eating meat, eggs and dairy.
Great parenting includes protecting children against harm. Animal foods harm children as they do adults to such an extent that children in their twenties often graduate with heart disease, strokes and diabetes-all life threatening diseases. Allowing children to play with sickening and deadly food is like having them play with snakes: you know it will harm them, but not how much.
What a bunch of horse sh!#. Nice try though.
Have fun in hell Jason.
Jason appears to be highly resistant to real science, common sense, good advice and good will.
Perhaps that is what toxic American food can do to you.
One of my favorite memories from being 6-7 years old was having lunch with my father. I was always able to order whatever I wanted. I always ordered a hamburger and fries. This was a mom-and-pop diner. Food is more than just a nutrient. It obviously serves many other purposes. It’s not McD’s fault that some people are so stupid they eat it every day. It is McD’s fault if they fill their product with unnecessary crap. Could never understand why McD can’t keep the product processing to a minimum and flash-freeze the product before deliveriing it to destination.
This story may be a good example of capitalism. Hopefully the information is reasonably correct * and McD will adjust quickly the way any smart business will when it sees an opportunity to adjust, change, and recover.
* We have to be careful about what passes for “information” nowadays. The last 20 years and especially the last six shows that these so-called journalists have an agenda and, like certain “multinationals” (from which they gladly take advertising monies), that agenda is not in your interest: it’s in theirs and their owners.
But you already knew that, right? And that’s why you keep voting for idiots that hate your guts and take your money and lie to your face and you are too stupid to do anything about it.
What is this article in importance compared to having 30 million mestizos legalized so the democrats can get their votes and the repubs get cheap(er) labor?
Burger and fries is so wonderfully American, it must be our national dish and the quality of its preparation reflective of national pride … or lack thereof.
Burger and fries are NOT wonderfully American!
beef paddies has been cooked by many other nations for centuries prior to Americans labeling it as a burger.
bloody copy cats, your worse than the Chinese.
Somebody here needs to get laid. Lighten up, Francis.
Also… I think you meant “you’re”.
Hello again Jason. I used to partake of the “hamburger and fries” tradition. I paid the price. I just don’t want others to make the mistakes my family made and that I made.
I believe the comment was directed toward someone fresking out about the origin of hamburgers. Whether or not you enjoy them is really of no concern to me. I’ll likely continue to have one from time to time.
To each his own.
I paid the price.
What like 4 dollars?
Jason, don’t pretend to be smart cause it is obvious that you are a piece of shit going to hell when you die and deserving every second of it.
Somebody can’t be smart AND be a pice of shit?
hey hell what a lovely place!!
hey vegan wanna see a video of me breaking the legs of a bunny to use it as bait for wolves???
Except it’s not meat and dairy per se. It’s FACTORY FARMED meat and dairy, paired with French fries soaked in Omega 6 oils and processed white bread.
Well at least you’re not a zealot or extremist or anything crazy like that. Google: omnivore.
Monsanto EPS: 5.09 USD McDonalds EPS: 4.82 USD
I wish i was losing money like that.
Me too and Monsanto share are still up over 150% compared to 3 years ago.
As long as they haven’t filed chapter 7 our work is not yet complete.
You’re whole argument is that a compound dares to have a food and non-good use?
MC D’s isn’t loosing money due to GMO or artificial ingredients, they are loosing more money because of more competition from other fast food chains. Simple economics my little children. In fact most of the fast food chains get all of their food from the same suppliers but in different grades and quality. For instance Tyson supplies chicken to MCD, BK, Sonic, CKfila, Taco Bell, Etc. and so on. And many of these companies profits are up and I bet they are just taking more of a portion of the Market from MCD. Oh and by the way all their food is GM and non organic as well. So sorry Anthony your article just doesn’t hold much weight when you examine the picture with a much wider lens. Best to leave the economic issues with the economists.
Thank you Anthony
Yes thank you for more bad reporting.
+GMO Roberts Dude, why dont you quit beating around the bush on all these articles you constantly bash which tell the tale of how GMO’s are bad for us. Just tell us how you really feel. Tell us that GMO’s are the healthiest nutrition filled food that the world has ever seen and you’d stake your life on it, eating them till the day you die. Which couldn’t come too soon 😉 You always spout off “show me some scientific proof”. Well me gut & stomach are proof enough for me, & I can damn well tell whenever I’ve eaten something that isn’t GMO’S free. I dont need some damn yayhoo that gets paid for his “scientific opinion” to tell me that there is no proof that they are harmful when my own body can tell me the truth.
Start eating right and eating totally organic people and your body will tell you the same exact thing. Don’t pay ANY attention to this shill GMO Roberts. Read all of his posts from arctic to article and you’ll see exactly what I mean.
Obviously you either not read my posts or just not paid attention to them. I’ve never said anything to the tone of gmos are the healthiest nutrition filled food that the world has ever seen. Nor do I believe such a statement. What I do believe and have said is that they are nutritionally the same. As for scientific opinions I believe that is where we start not where we end. The conclusions are made in the real world applications under real conditions. After twenty years with no issues it is pretty simple that they are safe and just as nutritious. If not at least some of the horror stories would be true. Farmers wouldn’t keep planting them and they definitely wouldn’t feed them to livestock for very long, because they would be broke if they did. But no these haven’t happened and neither have any of the others.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNmJcWP7R08
This is a mere paper cut to Monsatan and Mac and Don’s. But there’s nothing wrong with going for the Coup-De-Gras!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNmJcWP7R08
I don’t want them to necessarily go out of business but I do want them to make healthier products — organic burgers with real meat and real potatoes cooked in virgin coconut oil. I’d like Monsanto to get out of the poison business and come to realize that organic food is the only way to save us. GMOs will only kill us all (including their families). It’s probably a pipe dream.
I hear you. I don’t mind eating fast food now and then. In fact, eating an apple is fast food! I just don’t want to be poisoned. If McD can transition to safer and healthier fare then it’s a win-win for them and consumers. People are sick and are choosing to eat healthier.
“…and come to realize that organic food is the only way to save us. GMOs will only kill us all (including their families).”
Fear monger much? Care to provide even the slightest bit of evidence that any of this is true?
Any time someone uses the words like only, have to call BS. Organic food is just as bad in many ways. It is sprayed with natural junk and involves higher tilling, more fuel. Or with animals they just accept a higher loss of animals but keep the same practices. The food is still short on the micro-nutrients than food grown in healthy soil or raised on pasture. This is the other problem is the huge mono-culture farming that is destroying the environment. We are draining aquifers and killing soil for quick results. That is always left out of the debate but is really going to hurt in the future.
Just out of curiosity do you take drugs that fry your brain? If not its just sad that you have a brain and don’t know how to use it. What a joker you are “organic food is just as bad in many ways”.
Boomer moms like you have to be just about the most unintelligent people on this planet. Holy shit. I doubt you’ve ever had an original thought in your life. You’re an empty pit. Your mouth is for fucking and being used until completion.
I have questions:
– How many times have you said something and thought, “wait, that doesn’t make sense. I’m in the wrong here so I’ll retract what I said.”?
– Do you take everything at face-value without a second thought from people you respect?
– Do you watch TV?
– How many different dicks have you taken? More than one?
Live, laugh, love, am I right ;^)
You apparently don’t read much. I’ve ready plenty on the subject, but am not going to do your homework for you. Politicians have their hands in the pockets of Monsanto big time too. Not good.
Humor me. I’d love to see this “evidence”. You’ll have to forgive me if I don’t hold my breath waiting.
You need to research your logical fallacies. The burden of proof lies on you, the one making the argument in the first place.
Also, you are incorrect. There is nothing innately wrong with GMO’s. In fact, every single living thing is a GMO. Although, if you want to be more direct in your fear-mongering, anti-science rhetoric, then I can list countless foods you’ve no doubt been eating that fit the popular definition of the term “GMO”. This includes corn, bananas, apples, peanuts, tomatoes, lettuce, all peppers hot-or-not, cucumbers, avocados, peaches, pears, lemons, limes, grapefruit, grapes, pumpkin, squash, almonds, kale, spinach, wheat, sassafras, fish, poultry, etc. Every single dog breed in existence is a GMO. Pigs are GMO’s. There is very little in what we eat that hasn’t been artificially genetically-modified.
I’m not sure I’d ever trust them to serve anything healthy. Sorry, won’t eat there EVER.
This is big news. Who thought McD’s would be facing these issues this quick.
Quick? It took years for people to catch on that it is nothing but stuff they pass off as food which is bad for you. It took too long to me.
Somebody really needs to learn how to read a financial statement, or how to tell the whole story. Yes, McDonald’s profit is slipping, but the still made over a billion dollars last quarter, so I doubt if we see the in bankruptcy anytime soon. Monsanto on the other hand idi report that loss, but again if you compare it to the prior year’s fourth quarter it is a much smaller loss. Furthermore, if you actually look at the company structure and cash flows, they don’t sell much in the fourth quarter. Sales mainly happen in the third quarter. Funny how this site only like to report a sliver of information to make it sound opposite from the truth.
While you are correct, Anthony I think is aware of this. The point is that their previous track record is changing. Monsanto is spending millions on fighting GMO labeling. McDonald’s is losing money and they know it as well as their image dies.
Is McDonalds slipping? Yes. Slipping because of gmos? No, because all the other chains use them as well. Are the slipping because their God sucks? Yes. Is Monsanto losing money because they are fighting gmos? Or is it because thanks to gmos we have went from a grain shortage to a surplus and now acres are being cut back which in turn affects their seed sales? Time will tell, but I bet Monsanto and McDonalds will still be here.
I wouldn’t belittle GOD because you are showing everyone that you are just as evil as the devils own monsanto. Either you stand with GOD against evil or you are evil just like everyone who cares only about money by adding chemicals and GMO’s to mankinds food.Did GOD make a mistake when HE created all the different food for us by forgetting to insert GMO’s.or chemicals? Who are we to think that we can do a better job than our GOD who created us?
HE created our food? GOD gave us everything including brains. Man has used these brains to create most of the food we have today. Did you ever happen to eat a ruby red grapefruit? You can even find organic varieties. They were created I n a lab by exposing plants to atomic radiation, which scrambled their Dna and produced a new type of plant. How can this be organic? You tell me. Over 3000 types of food items have been created thanks to mutation breeding over the last sixty years. Where are your horror stories about these? Strange there aren’t any. Just like there are no true ones about gmos. Only evil lies about them that I’m sure GOD doesn’t appreciate.
A little something to think about, GOD didn’t create the foods we eat today. Almost every variety of plant (fruit,veg,grain etc.) were bred and altered by man from plants that were mostly wild and inedible before we started tinkering with them. Obviously you have no idea how agriculture or horticulture works. What you are saying is like giving GOD credit for creating the Labrador retriever. A little hint that dog breed was also created by man.
Slau…, me believes u misinterpreted what GMO’s God reference was representing… I believe GMO’s reference to God was in referral to McDonald’s worshiping the “almighty dollar” over anything religious… And in search of the “almighty dollar”, they have sacrificed the quality of their product… Jus my interpretation and opinion…
I agree Anthony is aware of this. This is why his story is so deliberately misleading.
Great news!