Gagging the Nation: Government and Corporate Trolls on the Internet
How people are paid to cause virtual war
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I’ve personally been affected by the vitriolic and absurd comments of paid shills on the Internet, as have many individuals trying to report ‘truth’ as they see it. I’ve always suspected there were people being paid by mega-companies like Monsanto to try to defame my words. Now I have proof.
In documents released by Edward Snowden and Glen Greenwald, there is now proof that Western governments have been trying to wreak havoc on the lives of people who dare to expose corporate crimes and government infiltration by Big Biotech, Big Banks, Big Pharma, and the ‘unseen hand’ that is ruining the world.
Not only do they dare to try to limit free speech, but in an attempt to control money and power (and thus people), they also try to defame and discredit anyone who blows the whistle on their insalubrious and greed-driven misdeeds.
Utilizing a UK intelligence outfit known as the Government Communications Headquarters, through a secret unit known as the Joint Threat Research Intelligence Group, paid trolls and shills systematically try to “to control, infiltrate, manipulate, and warp online discourse.”
That means some individuals get a pay check to talk about how great glyphosate and Bt toxins are, and individuals on other sites I’ve personally been to try to discredit me by calling me an ‘idiot yoga teacher.’ Funny how a little digging would evidence that not only am I college educated, but I’ve also taught yoga for over fifteen years, and that this practice deeply informs my knowledge, and interest in natural health.
Read: Monsanto and Others Caught Paying Internet Trolls to Attack Activists
I used to even argue with these trolls online until I wised up and realized not to engage with them whatsoever. It isn’t just my or any other person’s integrity at stake, though. As Greenwald recently posted, the entire Internet’s authenticity is at stake – much like the MSM:
“By publishing these stories one by one, our NBC reporting highlighted some of the key, discrete revelations: the monitoring of YouTube and Blogger, the targeting of Anonymous with the very same DDoS attacks they accuse “hacktivists” of using, the use of “honey traps” (luring people into compromising situations using sex) and destructive viruses. But, here, I want to focus and elaborate on the overarching point revealed by all of these documents: namely, that these agencies are attempting to control, infiltrate, manipulate, and warp online discourse, and in doing so, are compromising the integrity of the internet itself.”
Luckily, I haven’t been wooed into a honey trap or defamed publicly. So far, I’ve only had to learn to ignore venomous rants below my articles that are obviously meant to obfuscate the sentient points I make. You can’t conceal truth for long though. Many people had a hunch that these trolls were trying to mind-boggle the masses. You’ll find such arguments right here on Natural Society.
Greenwald and Snowden say that these agencies and their work-for-hire contractors are willing to sink to disgusting lows to control public view. They include two primary tactics:
“(1) to inject all sorts of false material onto the internet in order to destroy the reputation of its targets; and (2) to use social sciences and other techniques to manipulate online discourse and activism to generate outcomes it considers desirable. To see how extremist these programs are, just consider the tactics they boast of using to achieve those ends: “false flag operations” (posting material to the internet and falsely attributing it to someone else), fake victim blog posts (pretending to be a victim of the individual whose reputation they want to destroy), and posting “negative information” on various forums.”
Remember this the next time some shill says the economy is recovering or that GMOs are good for us, that pharmaceutical drugs and vaccines don’t cause any harm, or that eating clean food and pristine water won’t help prevent most disease. It’s an information war, and your opinion counts.
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| Christina Sarich is a humanitarian and freelance writer helping you to Wake up Your Sleepy Little Head, and See the Big Picture. Her blog is Yoga for the New World. Her latest book is Pharma Sutra: Healing the Body And Mind Through the Art of Yoga. |
I have noticed a few things about the shills. They don’t in most cases post on Sunday. They don’t know American history. For example if you talk about the Manhattan Project they don’t know what you are talking about. I believe most of them are from India or Pakistan. I was at first taken in by them because my own family members are incredibly gullible and believe all sorts of ridiculous things. One thing I have found that as the lion made man a better runner. The shill can actually in some cases ask questions than can trigger your finding information that you may have never found otherwise.
On a topic about 9/11 Ran Paul releasing 28 pages document a person named Seattle Nerd keep going around to those who call out on our ties to the Saudia Arabia by insulting those who want the nation to back off.
It’s like he systematically chooses comments that display the closest truth about the Saudis and then starts childish name calling and yelling without any sources to back himself up.
Welcome to the Wilderness of Mirrors.
I personally believe based on a preponderance of evidence that:
1. 9-11 was a Zionist job.
2. The holocaust is a hoax.
3. Most of the NASA space program is a hoax.
I spoke to Science guru Michio Kaku on his radio show once and it was put on YouTube.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drSqtw0Qywk
I can hardly believe how many trolls lurk at that site. They’ve got to be paid.
While I’m sure there are paid shills, on both sides, there are also plenty of independent people who question Ms. Sarich’s shrill anti-GMO dogma, and I’m one of them.
Ms. Sarich is clearly trying to maneuver herself into a position in which any time someone disagrees with her, she can scream “Shill!” rather than address the points brought forth. What a cop-out!
In that case she may be working for the paid trolls in order to make all those who stand against the government/industrial complex look like conspiracy nuts.
Basically we are fighting against the government/industrial complex when protesting Gee Em Oh products and unfortunately simply pounding on our keyboards as keyboard warriors won’t get ourselves heard.
We need to do more. We need an armed revolution.
Christina,
The issue of Vaccines is not ar ethey good or bad. The issue is it is my choice to have them or not. Is the government going to force me to take a vaccine, and make me pay for it, out of pocket or through thef, excuse me, taxes, every time it thinks I need one?
Eating an apple a day is “good for you”. Will we next find an apple on our desk every morning and have to deliver the core to the boss within 15 minutes?
I’m reading and I’m thinking, but I’m not talking any more. I admit it. I’m scared.
As well she should be.
These comments make her point about trolls and shills very well.
Out, out, [you] brief candle!
Life’s but a walking shadow, a poor player
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage
And then is heard no more: it is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing. Macbeth scene V
all zogmerika gov. agents on the look out for anti-Semitism and mossad do the same thing
“Sentient points”? I believe you meant SALIENT points, since a point is not an animate thing, and cannot possibly be “sentient”.
That’s a pretty good indication of the intellectual level at which Ms. Sarich writes.
I felt no need to pile on. She’s been pretty much taken to the woodshed here! ?
I am sure your proofreading percentage is 100. You are on top of the leader board, you win.
She ignorantly used a 100% wrong word. What does that have to do with “proofreading”?
Your answer?
Dear Christina, YOU are wonderful, for spreading these truths. People like you really do make a difference and we are most appreciative. Thanks again, Deni
Thanks Doc.
Google Sharyl Atkisson, former CBS reporter. She has a TED talk on this topic and some articles, too.
Christina, Keep at it ! I almost thought that we could get through one session without “gmo boob” being here !
Kimmie, you know you would miss me if I wasn’t here for you. You and Chrissy would be able to spread your lies on the unsuspecting.
Nevermind the mosquito trolls. There are much bigger and creatively deceptive types pharmaceutical propaganda “trolls” out there, like so-called progressive websites winning our trust with their progressive stances on many issues while promoting corporate hysteria and hatred against those who prefer to trust independent science about vaccines over those “scientists” on the payroll of the pharmaceutical industry -such as Mother Jones, the AlterNet, and the Think Progress site:
http://www.thinkprogress.org/health/2015/07/03/3676984/jim-carrey-vaccine-tweets/
-the links from this article lead the reader to all kinds of horseshit propaganda and I think it is deliberate. The 1% doesn’t care about our other opinions but on the subject of vaccines, they clearly care very much.
People need to educate themselves and learn from websites like Natural Society and other quality sites. They can also use this information when they shop food food and when they need to go to a doctor. Be prepared and educate yourself, so you are not taken for a money ride.
Hi Bobo. I see your picture. I see how GMO foods work for your lovely complexion. I like the warts and tumors. At least Chrissy didn’t put long hairs growing out of your warts. See, she really does like you!
I hear your going to insert a gene from porcupines into your Mongolian gerbils so they can’t back out. How cleaver, beaver!! Should make you rich. Your buddies in Chi-town will go wild!
So how much did Barry, “God of the world” pay you for your part of the TPP. and the true labeling act?
Keep up the good work, and keep eating your healthy GMO’s so you can get more of those cute tumors!!
Nice article. I think I encountered a lot of paid shills on Mother Jones and Alternet.
These magazines are important for GMO companies, as they see the young left as crucial for the future of GMO’s. So far, if a certain progressive left can be peeled off and made pro-GMO, the battle is won. They want to make it so anti-GMO folk are considered as simply “libertarian Christian conservative tin-foil hat wearing truthers, conspiracy theorists and off-the-grid gun freaks”.
If they are the opposition, Monsanto has won. All it has to do is throw around the word “scientific” and call the opposition “libertarian nutcases”.
It is all about winning the hearts and minds of the trendy Whole Foods liberal type. Who shops at farmers markets to support grassroots business, but still looks to government to solve his problems.
These folks seem to hold the key. Mother Jones magazine is a strategic interest for this class.
The future is no longer a conservatie vs liberal thing as much as a small business, freedom oriented libertarian approach vs a collectivist one.
I personally want to keep my social security, teacher tenure, and certain public infrastructure. But I also want my 2nd amendment, local mom-and-pop stores, small farms, gardens, want to convert to an off-the-grid lifestyle.
Certain rights won by union hard hats should be kept . I see myself as libertarian-lite.
I see myself as Full-Cream Libertarian Heavy…
Please name one right won by a “union hard hat”.
Your 40 hour work week.
Half hour lunch break?
Any break at all. I hate a lot of things about modern labor units, but let’s give them their due as to the many things we now take for granted about our working conditions that we now take for granted: paid vacations, lunch breaks, breaks, period. So don’t throw the baby out with the bathwater. Severance pay. On and on.
Forty-odd years ago, I worked in the kitchen of a small restaurant. The kitchen was small, and I was both cook and dishwasher. It was a busy cafe, very popular. “Right to work” state = “right to be fired with no redress”.
There were no breaks at all. Nine hour plus shift.
One day I stopped and bought a sandwich on my way to my shift. After all my prep work was done and the dishes washed, I was eating my sandwich. There were zero customers.
The owner came in and saw me eating. He said, “from now on, you eat on your own time, okay?”
I said okay, and when he got “busy” talking on the phone, I took off my apron and walked out the back door. I never even came back for my paycheck; he could have shoved it up his rude ass, for all I cared.
Half hour lunch break?
Our mandatory 2 hour siesta?
Libertarianism does not discount the idea of unions, it would just generally be against unions given a monopoly on labor by the government. Social Security would be fine too, if it was voluntary. Public infrastructure is completely possible on a private level, most infrastructure is built by private companies now, just contracted through government and could just as easily be advertised and shopped.
Don’t let a misunderstanding of Libertarian principles push you too far to the state.
The worst case of trolls I’ve ever seen was at Enenews dot com (which reports on nuclear energy issues)
Those trolls DO NOT want people to know the truth about the dangers of nuclear energy.
I’ve figured you had some dirt on David Icke but you don’t anyway y can’t trust not one or two Satan’s fishing rod is money and fancy, glitter I’m no fish.they have a squad of scum bags that will kill the baby drink some of the blood and sell the rest and the reason I don’t trust Edward Snowden, it’s only because he ran with a secret partner ( Russia ) why not go with alqeada, Talibans, Palestine or assad you know what I mean so he’s extremely questionable who truly trust is Julian assange.period no angles or room to think he’s on their side don’t be deceive by that Cat.or Cats.
As much as the shills annoy me, they actually made me up my game, thanks to them I’ve now become an expert at debating vaccines, knowing the topic inside out, no shill can ever beat me, this also translates into real life and has made me very influential on the topic, no parent will vaccinate their kids after they’ve had a 10 minute chat with me.
You rock!!! My family is from outta the country and I can attest that, the generation of my mother and grandmother have their lands, stocks, own grown veggies and what not. Apart from them remaining somewhat isolated from the main stream population, as far as I know, they never submitted to any vaccination and they are AMAZINGLY as strong as horses. No diseases, no traces of serious illness or cancer etc. All women have glowing skins, pinky cheeks, shinning silky long hair, the men are as strong as Oxen, It’s simply amazing. All of them are experts on traditional medicine so doctors are almost never needed or called. The food is right there so they don’t know any such thing as “processed food” or “cured meat”. And I know their longevity is simply out of this era!! My Grand Father from my mother’s side died at age 117 and one of his female cousins died around the same range. No one ever died of any such thing as the numerous diseases that one hears about on the news. Now I am coming to realize that there is something to their method and ways, after witnessing that with all modern medicine we have and technology and what no, we have more cancers than ever, more obesity, more physical weakness etc. than ever.
I agree wit Christina from start t finish. Not long ago, I saw the documentary “Life according to Monsanto”. And on there, a Doctor is featured that did an extensive research on how bad gmo food is for us. Him and other Renown Doctors were viciously persecuted by Monsanto for exposing the truth. He however went after his persecutors. He traced the false article that were supposedly written by “experts” on the internet. And he found out that all of them, ELECTRONICALLY, link to the website of this criminal PR company that was hired by Monsanto to do “damage control”!! with no real expertise no nothing, just their big lying mouths.
And thank you so much for your courage Christina as well as your honesty to work to warn the public.
Christina – I encounter many of these folks on the vaccine issue – you provide them with citations and facts and they call you names. I think it is important to point out these fallacies and challenge them to refute your facts. Most of the time, they cannot and either continue calling you names are go quiet.
That said, the websites themselves are also not posting all of our responses in these comment sections, which everyone should also be aware of. At times, I’ve responded a reply three or four times with nothing but cogent and thoughtful comments (almost always with back up to support them), but they often never get approved by the moderator. I’m convinced this is part of the game.
The pro-vaccine shills will use any trick in the book to make it appear that they won the debate, they will never admit something bad about vaccines unless you force them, then they will conclude that there’s still more benefit in vaccination. They will smear any studies you post, tell you that vaccines don’t make any money, post links to studies and put false labels on them, knowing that 90% of people haven’t got time to check. They will deliberately take you out of context to make you look a fool. They love doing huge posts which most working people haven’t got time to reply to, when you do get the time to go through them you realize it was all rubbish and easy to prove wrong, but many people would have looked at the post with all the studies and assumed it was legit.
Hmm.
dale ruff comes to mind.
Jay that’s a fact there’s certain people, topics, that will dissappear like Hilary clinton, Facebook it’s doing it they stopping good conversations in general they’re paranoid they are scare they are dying to pull the plug but we have Christians all over the states it’s these old bastards that lived already and they’re securing they loved and f**k ours.they all are going straight to hell, and there’s no showers in hell.
I think both the Neo Cons and Democrats are in on it together which is to hate on Christians and slander them.
In the democrats view “An enemey of my enemy is a friend of mine” so they actually have sympathy with the Bush Cartel which does not *at least hopefully does not* represent all Conservatives.
Empowering the George Debau Bush Big Corporation police state is just as bad as the Oh Bama Communist Military State which both don’t allow free market or competition and both favor monopolies and unions that can’t be broken up.
I sure hope Google doesn’t buy up our police force since they already own 98 percent of our web.
When you say, “hate on” people will assume you’re about 14 years old. Is this what you want?
I think both the Neo Cons and Democrats are in on it together which is to hate on Christians and slander them.
In the democrats view “An enemey of my enemy is a friend of mine” so they actually have sympathy with the Bush Cartel which does not *at least hopefully does not* represent all Conservatives.
Empowering the George Debau Bush Big Corporation police state is just as bad as the Oh Bama Communist Military State which both don’t allow free market or competition and both favor monopolies and unions that can’t be broken up.
I sure hope Google doesn’t buy up our police force since they already own 98 percent of our web.
To Christina: the best defense against trolls, paid or otherwise, is to take your time with the writing and reporting. While it’s nice to get out articles quickly to be abreast of current issues, articles that are well written and researched can stand up against the test of time. Rush journalism results in less than desirable results and usually ends up as the scorn of the readers. Quickly written articles are also easy game for people looking to make pot shots.
“Don’t feed the animals!” It’s better to ensure accuracy, provide good and well researched references and be cautious of wording and headlines. You already know people are looking to fight the good fight but end up taking their angst out against other friendlies. Yes, instead of commenting on Foreign Affairs and Rockefeller websites, they’d rather in-fight or be crabs in a bucket. So, don’t give them ammunition. Construct good articles that could be even used in a court of law as supporting evidence.
actually makes no difference at all. paid shills do what they do, regardless.
Interesting article, Christina. JTRIG definitely does provide a degree of evidence for government trolls. One website takes it even further, trying to demonstrate that the huge alternative Art Bell / Coast to Coast AM show is ran by the security establishment:
http://www.isgp.nl/2014_08_Coast_to_Coast_AM_cult
This is a great article, and a truthful insight into the information war that continuously goes on around us. We need more people to fight for the truth and to collectively overcome the distortions.
Now Chrissy is defending her right to steal articles without giving proper credit (see her corn cobb article from today), and while doing so accuses anyone that disagrees with her as being a paid troll? That is sad, but I do wish she would post a phone number or address, because if I could point out her lies AND get paid then sign me up!!
either you are already a paid …..kind, mentioned in this article…or a wanabe……I have read enough of your garbage here to rise half way to the moon…..and you just mentioned you’d like to get paid for such. Or perhaps a raise in pay! Maybe that’s it
Sure I would like to be paid for something I’m doing anyway. It is funny how Chrissy thinks she should be above critism especially when she does such a poor job of coping articles.
GMOs are safe? Safe for Monsanto profits?
There are thousands of studies showing safety, company and independently financed. There are a few that show otherwise. The few that are out there can’t be replicated for some reason, they can’t stand up to scientific scrutiny, and some are financed by anti gmo groups. Gmos have been used for twenty years without a single recorded incident. Have they been good for Monsanto? You tell me, in the mid nineties Monsanto was a broke and today they are trying to buyout one of their largest competitors for a lot more than they are worth. As far as their future, they have patents about to expire, their dicamba beans are still not out yet, and other companies are taking the lead in gmos.
http://eatlocalgrown.com/article/12607-important-information-on-kids-and-food-allergies-from-gmos.html?c=tca There are your feeding studies right there… 20 years worth
https://leviquackenboss.wordpress.com/2015/03/19/a-letter-about-robyn-obriens-food-allergy-crusade/
She’s a quack and we all know it.
If you get paid by the lie, you should be doing well, troll.
Wow that’s a nice comeback when you have no real facts to respond with!
That was a fact
A fact that there wasn’t a logical comback
comeback*
Thanks for proving my point if that is the best you can do.
Yes a fact that you don’t have a clue. Thank you for confirming that.
Of all the companies and corporations that represent twisted greed, corruption, and irreparable destruction to our planet and it’s life forms, Monsanto stands out. They have a decades long list of toxic products they have unleashed on unsuspecting populations, all for profit, not for anything good for consumers. And they continue these same practices today.
And you troll for them.
And I am the one that doesn’t have a clue?
Right…..
You are a fool
Fortunately the majority of the world likes to eat and doesn’t agree with you. You don’t have a clue about that, and you don’t have a clue about who I am or who I work for either. Yet you act like you do. That makes you the fool Nicky.
Maybe we should just send GMO Roberts to the moon and build an atmosphere and a food supply chain using his GMO crops so he can live in his fantasy GMO filled planet and take his followers with him!
Leaving Earth the natural food Gee M Oh free!
GMO
Roberts is a shill, Paid or not I’ve seen this guy on other sites causing problems
please ignore…
Speak of the devil…
Oh man, you’ve got no shame, you know that we know, you’re actually loving this article discussing you, makes you feel like the leading monster in a horror movie
LOL, Undecider put up the best comment above. All she has to do is put out good articles instead of the crap she’s doing.