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Scientists: Creativity Part of ‘Mental Illness’

Anthony Gucciardi
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October 18th, 2012
Updated 10/31/2012 at 7:47 pm
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creativitymentalillness 235x147 Scientists: Creativity Part of Mental IllnessIf you like to express yourself through painting, writing, or any other form of artistic action, scientists now say that you must be suffering from a mental illness of some kind. In a new display of how truly insane the mainstream medical health paradigm has become, mainstream media outlets are now regurgitating the words of ‘experts’ who say that those who are creative are actually, more often than not, mentally ill.

After all, more than 50% of the United States is, by definition of the psychiatrists of the nation, mentally ill. Even questioning the government is considered a mental disorder. It should come as no surprise to know that upwards of 70% of the psychiatrists who write the conditions are — of course — on the payroll of those who produce the drugs to ‘treat’ the conditions. It should also therefore come as no surprise to note that the DSM (the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, which is the foundation of the entire diagnosis system) now contains over 900 pages of bogus disorders.

And perhaps creativity may soon be added to the massive textbook, which labels people who are shy, eccentric, or have unconventional romantic lives as mentally ill.

Is it any wonder that the 4th edition of the manual, which added hundreds of new ways to diagnose patients, led to a 40 times increase in bipolar disorder diagnoses. Even the lead editor of the DSM-IV Allen Frances, MD, has stated the book is utter nonsense:

“There is no definition of a mental disorder. It’s bull****. I mean, you just can’t define it,” he said.

Real information like this is what has led the mainstream news to re-title their pieces regarding the new classification of creativity as a mental illness, changing the headlines to more ‘ginger’ ways of linking the two together. Meanwhile, the writers of the study claiming that creativity is part of a mental illness are quite clear in stating that creativity is literally a mental illness. The extent in which you wish to ‘treat’ your creativity, however, is apparently up to you and your doctor.

Be of caution, however, as you have to decide at ‘what cost’ you will allow your creativity to exist. As the study writer stated:

“If one takes the view that certain phenomena associated with the patient’s illness are beneficial, it opens the way for a new approach to treatment. In that case, the doctor and patient must come to an agreement on what is to be treated, and at what cost.”

As expected the way to ‘treat’ your creativity is of course to take pharmaceutical drugs in the form of anti-depressants or hardcore psychotropic drugs. The same drugs that virtually all suicidal massacre shooters have taken before or during their rampages.

As virtually everything we think and do is classified as a symptom of a mental disorder, the mainstream psychiatric paradigm will continue to grow like a massive parasite alongside the pharmaceutical industry that profits off of the absolute laughable diagnoses of regular adults, children, and even toddlers. Until we realize that we need to shift into a new health paradigm that is centered around personal health freedom and shed corporate science as a whole, we will continue to see insane headlines classifying thought and emotion as mental illness.

About Anthony Gucciardi:
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  • http://www.thebritishcbtcounsellingservice.com/ Ervin Jackson

    I'd like to think that isn't the case. I know some a lot of perfectly sane people with considerable creative skills.

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  • BndrFullaBtch

    Sir, this is an important piece of writing. My experiences, and my training as a social psychologist, have led me to the same conclusion. What is the next step, now that enough people are aware of what you have stated here? (I do not believe a psyche exists and wear my professional mantel with discomfort. I did not train in 'clinical psychology.')

  • dogitydog

    Creating a drug for creativity illness becomes a parodox. After all, who wants to take a drug that was created by someone that is mentally ill?

  • Avanti

    Yes, this threat formulated by those freak top drug makers are saying that Lawyers and Judges with clever way of write up their arguments have to swallow it?

    Ah!! may be because those that are complaint about Monsanto crimes, chemtrail, fluoride in water, general conspiracies issues, etc. are lofty enough to win.

  • Windy2

    What's this saying for those who read the writings of the crazys?

    What of the publishers,editors,etc,etc.

    Is"Books a Million"profiting off of these poor souls?Do their employees need to be on meds?

    Are librarians part of the problem ?Encouraging the sick?

    What of the museums full of all that artwork and folks actually going there to look at it all?

    I suggest we buy stock in those psycho drugs.We are going to be rich.Really rich.

  • Anonymous

    "Any extreme in behavior is mental illness." Jesus

    So Walter (above) you are most correct.

  • http://livebeautifully.info Melissa

    Wow! way to marginalize a whole section of the population! I love to write. I love interior design, drawing and flower arranging. Where are the men in white coats to take me away? I think that educating yourself in regards to health by watching the evening news is the most ludicrous way to become informed. There is always an agenda with main sources of news. They'll spout off whatever information as long as they get paid handsomely enough! Go to natural news or natural society if you want more accurate information!

    • suss

      Melissa i agree w/ you fully- alternative, truth media internet/radio is where i get my news too. Since i'm awake now for the past 4 years my life has taken a full 180. My health is 100% better everything is better- after the initial shock of it all however, went thru the stages one goes thru when a loved one dies- denial, sadness, anger, and then finally acceptence. W/ acceptence i'm in action for the most part on what to do spiritually, financially, and health wise, life is now an adventure never a dull moment once your eyes are wide open-

  • CDR

    Define "normality"; a state of being that is deemed "acceptable" by the greater part of society, maybe. A category into which very few people fit perfectly.

    The way things are going, we'll ALL be labelled as in need of drug treatment; great money-spinner for the pill companies.

    What a boring race we would be, without creativity, inventiveness, sculptures, paintings, gadgets, beautiful buildings, etc etc.

    Someone talked about left and right brain activity. Yes it is true that left brain stuff is the stuff of order, logic and control. Many of us (including myself) lean that way by our general nature; however I also have strong right-brained interests that counterbalance. Many people do. The "stuff" of the right brain is considered flimsy, vacuous and unimportant; no doubt politicians would love the populus to be totally left-brain and (as someone said already) easily controlled.

    Therefore yes, use the MSM to bang it into people's minds that creativity is a sign of illness and, eventually, scare people witless so that they stop drawing, crafting, sculpting, building, etc for fear of men in white coats coming along to medicate them. One might laugh…….but there are some folk out there who are hellbent on making it happen.

  • Douglas M. Mason

    I'm at my most creative when I'm in the manic phase of my bipolar condition. The depressive phase is a nightmare, though. I spent over a year of my life, voluntarily committing myself, in "mental hygiene wards." After numerous pharmaceutical experiments (chemical cocktails), they finally hit on a mix that helped me not think about killing myself everyday. I'm always open to discussion, because I do think a lot of what I've seen is bullshit (they tried to talk me into electric shock therapy…what's next, voluntary frontal lobotomy?). I've had my share of lousy social workers, therapists, psychologists, shrinks, ad nauseum, too. And the DSM used to list homosexuality as a mental illness (I'm straight and a proud supporter of the Human Rights Campaign). But the fact remains that I've been out of the wards (some of which still have their Nurse Ratcheds)for almost a decade now, relatively dope free (except for the legal "happy pills") and a nontraditional student (age 62) at Penn State (where I worked on my masters).

    • Douglas M. Mason

      I want to elaborate a bit more on the sketchy reply from yesterday (Sunday, October 21, 2012). First of all, as a scientist (retired soil scientist), I wanted to point out that science, more than occasionally, comes up with solid answers. Does anyone out there seriously dispute the Theory of Gravity? Unfortunately, modern English has somewhat distorted the concept, theory. Theory is not a question (Scientists propose hypotheses as their queries. Theory is much closer to fact, because when the preponderous thinking of scientists come to some grand realization, they come up with things like the Theory of Evolution (note:belief is based on faith, not fact). Personally, I think our greatest moral task revolves around the Theory of Anthropogenic (human-caused) Climate Change. It is a civilzation-challenging problem supported by 97% of climate scientists (even the 2% who are skeptical admit that it is occuring, but they might see it as a natural phenomenon or have a problem with the models being used to describe global warming rate and its consequences. This means 99% of climate scientists recognize a problem that even the military admits is a threat to national security. Why aren't we doing something about it (building sea walls around New York City, etc.)? Part of the problem is the hoaxers (the 1% who claim climate deterioration is a fantasy dreamed up by scientists, environmental groups, etc. to scare the citizenry and drum up big bucks from foundations, government coffers, ad nauseam. U.S. Sen. James Imhofe (R-OK) is a powerful politician who says there is no point fretting about God's plan for humanity and the planet (I guess the good senator is a believer in the Bible, and perhaps, at least subconsciously, in the reality of global warming). Sorry for getting off topic, but Climate Change is certainly a cause of anxiety in yours truly. I have 3 grandchildren and a great granddaughter…I'm scared to death of what the Earth might look like if they make it to senior citizenship (some scientists give humans and other megafauna, critters larger than rodents or small birds, a 50-50 chance of surviving into the next century. Isn't it obvious that we are in the midst of another mass extinction(also anthropogenic)that has laid waste to biodiversity 1000 times faster than the natural rate of species loss? Now, back to mental illness. In the future (if we make it), our prevailing model, based on brain chemistry mixed with genetic predisposition, some environmental causation (childhood upbringing,pollution, etc.) and a pinch of psychoanalysis (only the 1% can afford the latter anymore), will probably be considered obsolete, backward and, possibly, barbaric. Check out the history of madness, mental illness and psychiatry in the Western World. The Greeks thought we had four humors (liquids in our body…blood, phlegm, yellow bile and black bile)that determined our relative state of sanity. Leeches, therefore, might cure certain types of blood-related "melancholy". Our reference Senator Imhofe's Good Book for further details about dealing with demonic possession, such as when Jesus the Christ passed the evil spirits from a madman into some nearby pigs, who committed suicide (swine are so intelligent that I wonder if these animals ended up in porcine hell(personally, I think it follows that if humans have souls, so do sentient beings. This is probably the only belief I share with Governor Romney). Back to subject,watch the film, "The Madness of King George" for some more recent insights into mental illness such as the regal stool ("If you can't regulate yourself, how can you regulate your country?")and horrendous "cures" (I'll spare you from the gory details). On this side of the Atlantic, during the Civil War, phrenology was the rage (the shape of your skull could predict "character"…a precursor that could determine whether you became a criminal, a saint, whatever). For much greater detail, reference books like "From Madness to Mental Health:Psychiatric Disorder and it"s Treatment in Western Civilization," edited by Greg Eghigian. Did I mention that soil science (my career focused on soil ecology…sometimes incorrectly called "edaphology," which is a related but more narrow sub-discipline. I started in the agricultural arena, then moved into the environmental field, which involved both ag and non-ag related pollutants, their effects on everything from soil microbes to larger fauna and flora) is also somewhat of an art (bet you can't name another job that pays you for playing in the dirt, making mud. etc.?). Seriously, though, dig a pit and I can guarantee that each soil scientist describing the soil profile will have at least a slightly different, individualized interpretation. The same goes with mental health experts. The "chemistry" between the patient and doctor (psychologist, therapist, whatever) is extremely important. After more than 15 years of seeking help with my condition, I've only found only two therapists who "connected" and, thus, have made or are making real inroads (fortunately, I'm being seen bu one now who is employed by the U.S. Dept. of Veterans Affairs. I really hated it when I was in the Air Farce, regarding things both petty – shoeshines, haircut)- and significant – my tour in Southeast Asia (SEA) during the Indochina War). If you would allow me one final (I hope) digression, few Americans realize that, although the "police action" in Vietnam ended in January 1973, we kept on bombing Laos through April 1973 and Cambodia into August 1973. I think the latter action played, at least in part, a part in stirring up the hornets' nest that resulted in Khmer Rouge genocide (mass murder makes me crazy…do readers know that, right now, several million people are being similarly slaughtered in the Congo?) when the country was known as Kampuchea years a few years later. And Vietnam was the country that led the charge in ending Pol Pot's reign of terror! The Vietnamese correctly call our national ordeal "The American War." Self-loathing reached a peak for more during that last year of my service to our country. I was caught in a dilemma – I took a vow when I joined the military machine that I felt honor-bound to keep, yet the leaders who spoke out against the war (like the just-deceased former U.S. Sen. George McGovern, whom I voted for as president just before crossing the Pacific SEA-bound), especially those leading the anti-war movement (including GI resisters I met throughout my 4 plus years length of service, as well as artists like the varied musicians who created the bliss that made my life less unbearable back then)gave me moral insights that demanded resistance (I helped put together an underground GI news paper with many soldiers from Fort Dix and a few airmen from adjacent McGuire Air Force Base). A final vector (I promise): I joined the Air Farce partially in hopes of seeing the World…I was stationed for more than six years at a point in New Jersey barely 35 miles from my hometown, Philadelphia! I have not lived a perfect life (no one does, really), but I will not live in shame over the many many mistakes and poor choices I've made over the last 62 years. My motto: live for today, do the best you can, and leave the Earth a better place for all the children (and other living creatures)from whom we borrowed it. Lots more to say, but I'm sure this is enough for now. Comments, questions, anyone?

      • Anonymous

        I am new to Psyche Central. I agree with you wholeheartedly.

        I am very happy to know that someone obviously so brilliant, has changed course and now is in the environmental field.

        It is reassuring to me to see your words and your expressions of worry for the future of our children, grandchildren and future genterations.

        I am 58 and if not for my self expression through my art I couldn't imagine what effect this would have on my well being.

        I suffer from bi-polarism and borderling personality disorder and also PTSS from early childhood traumas and an intense trauma in my early teens.

        I'm not sure I agree with all of "labels" that have been placed on my condition(s) but I know that when I get very depressed I become suicidal and 2 yrs ago I was hospitalized 5 times for this. (or I probably wouldn't be here) I know the feeling of "no way out but one."

        Thank you for your post. I too worry so about the environment. I have two grand children. I adore children and have been a nanny previously. I have been out of work for 3 years or so because of my disabilities. I am on meds ( I don't trust the pharmaceutical co.'s ) but out of desperation I through these many years I had to seek some solution so that I could function. Thank you again and I wish you wellness and peace of mind.

  • http://naturalsociety.com/scientists-creativity-part-of-mental-illness/#ixzz29podqhRt B.M

    All psychiatric treatment is based on a fraudulent science. They keep defining mental illness whilst they haven’t even got a definition for sanity.

    • BndrFullaBtch

      Well stated. Thomas Szasz is the patron saint of what you say.

  • Seth

    Worst article ever written. Whoever wrote this absolutely does not understand mental illness nor has ever had to live with it. There is no scientific evidence to back it up just a couple quotes of scientific people. The DSM has thousands upon thousands of scientific research to prove its statements. Show me one study in this entire article. Pure trash.

    • http://hellaheaven-ana.blogspot.com Ana

      Are you sure about what you're saying? Who do these scientific researches?

      How are they done?

      Why the DSM-5 is receiving numerous critics of psychiatrists?

      What are the researches that is being done to know if transgender is a mental disease or not?

      How do mental illness are diagnosed?

      Why some patients receive three, four, five or six different diagnoses?

      Do you believe that everything about the brain is known and at this point we can fully understand what is a mental illness?

      Why do you think that people don't get better even thou they take all the drugs available on the market?

      Have you ever heard about a psychiatry who claimed "I cured my patients?"

      Why do doctors receive money from the BIG Pharma to ghost-write, prescribe and to attend meetings?

      Why did Senator Chuck Grassley was after two Harvard psychiatrists, Charles Nemeroff one of them, because they received millions of dollars?

      Do you believe that medicine is an exact science?

      I have more questions…

      • http://hellaheaven-ana.blogspot.com Ana

        "Some of the harshest criticisms have come from those who led previous revisions of the DSM, in 1980 and 1994. In July, Robert Spitzer and Allen Frances, both now retired, wrote a stinging letter to the APA, accusing it of planning unworkable changes and making grandiose claims. In a separate editorial in the magazine Psychiatric Times, Frances complained that most of the authors are university-based researchers who are cut off from typical doctors and patients.

        Spitzer and Frances also criticise the fact that members of the various DSM-V work groups have had to sign confidentiality agreements. "The main problem is that we don't know what they're doing," says Spitzer. The APA says the confidentiality agreements are to stop the manual's authors writing their own diagnostic handbooks alongside the official manual. Kupfer points out that discussion does go on: work groups proposing major changes debate their ideas in papers and at meetings. "We've done everything we can to encourage it," he says."

        The entire article is here:
        http://justana-justana.blogspot.com.br/2009/12/ti

  • Jen

    How sane are those creating GMO foods and even plants, etc used in producing vitamins? Only out of THEIR minds so called scientists! The rest are little ones willing to fill their pockets at the expense of credulous, naive "pacients"….It is a shame such material is called scientific. It was a time when it was said that dreaming in colors meant that one was schizophrenic…Now, what next? How are we next?

  • Peter

    I think walking on two legs is a mental illness.

  • Germo

    If you strive to give honest information about health-matters, please quote researchers correctly.

    The only thing this research has shown is that there is correlation between creativity and mental illnesses. They do not imply that either one is a result of the other. I think your article finds more conclusions than the researchers did.

    • Raven

      There is a correlation between the initial stages of fascism and the attempt to label creativity and intellect as defects because it is well known that people who conform are easier to control.

    • Creativity

      The fact that they make this "correlation" speaks for itself that they intend to slander creativity as a symptom of mental illness otherwise they would not bother.

      Continue to drink the Kool-Aid, sheep.

    • http://hellaheaven-ana.blogspot.com Ana

      "If you like to express yourself through painting, writing, or any other form of artistic action, scientists now say that you MUST be suffering from a mental illness of some kind. In a new display of how truly insane the mainstream medical health paradigm has become, MAINSTREAM MEDIA OUTLETS are now regurgitating the words of ‘experts’ who say that those who are creative are actually, more often than not, mentally ill." (emphasis added)

      If you read the words on capital you will be closer to what was written.

      Before criticising make sure you understood the text correctly.

  • Anonymou

    I was under the effects of ADHD medication, specifically vyvanse, for about 2 years before I got the guts to tell my parents about what it did to me. It completely took away my creativity (I'm a musician and photographer, those went away completely) and even had me in a self made noose multiple times, although I at least had the sense not to try it.

    • Bblue

      Honestly this shit scares me so much- when looking back at psychiatric treatments in the past we are horrified. Now we just have gentler more subtle ways of dealing with people who may pose a challenge. But this is like the whole tell people they are free and then make them do as you want as long as they believe it their idea. Its just another way of turning people into mindless zombies without realizing it.

      • http://naturalsociety.com/scientists-creativity-part-of-mental-illness/#ixzz29podqhRt Brook

        I do not think psychiatric treatment is more subtle these days. The day to day abuse that goes on in psychiatric facilities is horrific. If the patients don’t do as they are told they are dragged into a seclusion room, held down by 8 to 10 staff members and drugged against their will. Sometimes the staff decide to humiliate a patient, so they strip them completely naked and leave them naked for hours, whilst they watch them through a window in the door. This is often done to women who are rapped and it is usually male staff members who watch them through the window. Also if the patient attempts to hide their private parts, about 8 to 10 staff members will run into the room and drag the patient across the floor by the legs then pin her arms down whilst holding her legs up and spread apart; they then drug the patient, singer at her and finally leave the room to continue monitoring her through the window.

        Many women in psychiatric hospitals get raped by staff members and or male patients; if they report it they are told it is in their head and given higher doses of drugs, whilst the perpetrator is allowed to continually taunt them. Some women have even fallen pregnant and the babies have been taken away from them, then put up for adoption.

        Psychiatric patients are still given ECT against their will and from time to time lobotomies are performed without the patients consent. It is not uncommon for psychiatric patients to be tied to beds for hours or even days at a time and left in their own excrement. Patients are frequently assaulted and verbally abused by staff members. Yes psychiatric treatment has improved a little in the last 40 years as the patient are no longer expected to eat off the floor, but that’s about the only improvement they have seen.

      • BndrFullaBtch

        They remind us of terrible places so we will except the brainKillPills.

        In fact, the usual treatment for what dullards call 'mania' was rest. As much as was needed. Those too poor to rest simply died of some consequence of that. Opium was freely available until very recently in history. It had the uncanny ability to reduce distress. They took it away because people liked it so well. Now they offer Vicodin, which is a synthetic opiate. It is wildly addiciting. Worse, it is laced with acetominiphen, a liver toxin. Your FDA prefers that if you are addicted to an opiate of any sort, it be one that can cause liver damage. There is no other distinction to be made between Vicodin and Heroin.

  • Anonymous

    I guess they can't keep thier research labs funded unless they think of ways that they can keep people addicted to psychiatric medication. Of course, they must have some bull-crap documentation to explain why you need it. So be careful about what you say to the doctor because if you are creative or like to watch birds or butterflies before you know it they may suggest you take medication. Ridiculous!

  • cecilia thornton

    that's only because they're so non-creative themselves that they can't see the beauty in anyone else's creations- sometimes, if you listen to them, they even deny God's creative abilities. They're jealous …… who can't see their way out of a maze if the path is laid out for them.

    • chris

      actually, scientists were included in that group of creative people they're talking about in the article. i'm going to assume you don't have much of a scientific background and can't appreciate the amount of creativity that goes into it.

      • Syzygy

        Scientists and their political masters are certainly good at creating a lot of problems on our planet, I'll give them that.

  • srcinvsbl

    personally, as an artist, i don't really need to be prompted or advised to take more psychtropic drugs than i already have!

    beside's i know i've been insane for years, and thats the point of artist's – we're meant to present people with idea's and reality's that they wouldn't normally look at or think about under normal circumstances and being at least a little bit crazy really helps to do this – it's toterated insanity :)

    • http://www.oddartist.com Rhonda

      For years I have answered the question I hear most often at art shows 'How do you come up with all these ideas?' with the reply 'It's a mild form of insanity.' and apparently I wasn't really joking!

      But the only treatment that helps keep me sane is to go ahead and create those ideas and get them out of my brain. Oh, and a lot of cheap wine…

      • BndrFullaBtch

        Insane has a bad connotation, as does bipolar. We will never have a correct name. We must simply make a name for the non artist and get it into parlance. I propose "dullard." I think they will get used to it quickly.

  • lollerskates

    Even Voltaire would not defend these animals right to speak. Keep oinking for Orwell.

  • Syzygy

    But creating a nuclear bomb or remote controlled attack drones is perfectly normal.

    • Creativity

      This gives me a creative idea:

      How about miniature attack drones carrying nuclear bombs ?

      • BndrFullaBtch

        Atoms are way too big.

  • Jimmy Russels

    These mad scientists are the ones with the most severe cases of mental illness.

    • Creativity

      Their disease is that they exist.

      I propose we cure them with nuclear medicine.

  • Anonymous

    True insanity. They don't even want you to think.

    • BndrFullaBtch

      I agree.

  • http://www.wolfsongstudio.com Sandi Baker – Artist

    Saw this coming a mile out…….They fear us. Didn't they try this before – only back then we were ''evil'' not ''mentally ill''?

    Artists are feared because by nature they are non- conformists who live on the fringes of ''society''. They poke, prod and push the boundaries of social convention. They stretch the fabric of perception and expose the emotional limits that plague humanity. Not only in what they paint or create, Artists do this in how they speak, the causes they take up, in how they live and in every thing they do. This is the main function of the true Artist. Artist engage the spirit, they are the explorers who push or sometimes drag kicking and screaming to the light a society asleep to the norm, the status quo, the herd mentality. Any actual Scientist following the Scientific Method will clearly deduce that an Artist is an evolutionary leap. Artists are the fire that ignited mankind's awakening and without them mankind would still be dragging their knuckles in the dirt. – Sandi Baker – Artist

    • chris

      evolutionary leap? nonsense. any actual scientist would tell you you can't perform that study with the scientific method. and paleoanthropologists will tell you art is a perfectly normal step in the progress that made us who we are. get off your high paranoid horse, read the abstract of the actual study and not this silly propagandaish article.

      http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/

      • http://www.wolfsongstudio.com Sandi Baker – Artist

        Chris..since you apparently haven't the intestinal fortitude to post your real name, I'll call you Chrissy McShill.

        I was replying to THIS article HERE. That is why my comment is posted HERE.

        I wrote my reply because I have a stake in this game. As an Artist I find it offensive, articles like this serve to perpetuate mistaken ideas about my peers in our chosen profession. I felt that that was pretty obvious. But you insinuate that I am paranoid – so speaking of mental illness – Just why are YOU here? I mean really, going about anonymously posting inflammatory replies to random people's opinions about an article really leaves one no choice but to question your sanity…..You are all over the replies left here, some stake in the game perhaps, or does it just make you feel special?

      • BndrFullaBtch

        Chris, your hostility ably disguises your ignorance. I have concluded that your are envious of those with capabilities that are deemed "artistic." Please do stay around.

    • CDR

      Nice one!

  • matt

    And these are the same type of "experts" that want to classify carbon dioxide as a pollutant. Since when did breathing become bad for humans?

    • JonP

      And the same type of "experts" who said they never saw the financial crash of 2007 coming.

  • Bill Hicks is God

    What an irresponsible "article."

    • Tamara

      The "experts" are the ones saying it, the article is just telling us what the "experts" are saying. The "experts" are dismantling what it is to be human. Art has always been accepted to be very defining trait of what it is to be human. Now these jackasses are saying exhibiting a very defining human trait is a sign of mental illness? It seems like they are trying to dismantle our human identity, our connection yo our very nature! These "experts" are a danger to themselves and others now. They will cause people to become sick, by convincing them to "treat" the illness of being a healthy human being! I say "experts", not experts, because they have now disconnected themselves from what a healthy human is and are now a danger to the mental health of everyone around them. They are not experts in healing the mind, though they claim to be. I don't want these "experts" anywhere near me. They're now a threat to my mental health!

      • chris

        actually the "experts" are saying something a bit different from what this article is saying. the fact that the article doesn't even mention who the experts are or what or where the study took place is suspect, not to mention i had to click the randomly tagged links in the article to find another article which actually had information in it and a link to the published study which is available for $31. the abstract is available for free though, which i suggest you read as it paints a different picture than this "article" does.
        http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/

        • me

          copy/paste of abstract (just the section that can be previewed for free). Seems very weird to me that these kinds of studies even take place. btw… what's really going on here has to do with left and right brain (a left brain society is far easier to program)

          Abstract

          We previously demonstrated that patients with schizophrenia or bipolar disorder and their relatives are overrepresented in creative occupations. Here, we use a new dataset with a considerably larger sample of patients (n = 1,173,763) to survey other psychiatric diagnoses and to validate previous findings. The specific aims of this study were to i) investigate if creativity is associated with all psychiatric disorders or restricted to those with psychotic features, and ii) to specifically investigate authors in relationship to psychopathology. We conducted a nested case–control study using longitudinal Swedish total population registries, where the occurrence of creative occupations in patients and their non-diagnosed relatives was compared to that of matched population controls. Diagnoses included were schizophrenia, schizoaffective disorder, bipolar disorder, unipolar depression, anxiety disorders, alcohol abuse, drug abuse, autism, ADHD, anorexia nervosa, and completed suicide. Creative professions were defined as scientific and artistic occupations. Data were analyzed using conditional logistic regression. Except for bipolar disorder, individuals with overall creative professions were not more likely to suffer from investigated psychiatric disorders than controls. However, being an author was specifically associated with increased likelihood of schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, unipolar depression, anxiety disorders, substance abuse, and suicide. In addition, we found an association between creative professions and first-degree relatives of patients with schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, anorexia nervosa, and for siblings of patients with autism. We discuss the findings in relationship to some of the major components of creativity.

          Article Outline

          1. Objectives of the study

          2. Materials and methods

          2.1. National registers

          2.2. Disease classifications

          2.3. Creative occupations

          2.4. IQ

          2.5. Statistical analysis

          3. Results

          3.1. Creative professions

          3.2. Authors

          3.3. Accountants and auditors

          3.4. IQ

          3.5. Relatives

          4. Discussion

          Role of the funding source

          Contributors

          Conflict of interest

          Acknowledgments

          Appendix A. Supplementary material

          References

        • BndrFullaBtch

          What is important is the European researchers found some very interesting correlations. The article on this page is making a leap to save space, and has landed squarely on target.

          Given the correlations, it is the case that if one changed some words in the DSM-IV, one would have a book about artists and our lives.

          I regret that I do not feel like exapnding on that. If a reader is capable of understanding it, she understands it. If she does not understand it, it is because she is not capable of doing so.

          Such people are of no use when one takes this page as presenting a problem than can and should be solved.

    • Anonymous

      Quite possibly the worst article I've ever read. The quote from the doctor clearly states that there is a discussion to make sure treatment and the potential effect to the "creativity" needs to be considered. How is that taken as creativity is a mental ilness? Yeah, artist are typically nutty, and most would probably agree. This article is an example of twisting a study to make "the man" look like the villian.

  • Walter

    And creating mental illness out of creativity is an even greater sign of mental illness.