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Chinese Plant Compound Wipes out Cancer in 40 Days, Says New Research

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October 18th, 2012
Updated 10/31/2012 at 7:47 pm
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plantcompound 235x147 Chinese Plant Compound Wipes out Cancer in 40 Days, Says New ResearchA little-known plant with a truly bizarre name is now making headlines as a cancer killer, with the compound of the plant vanishing tumors in mice with pancreatic cancer. Known as the ‘thunder god vine’ or lei gong teng, the Chinese plant is actually integrated into Chinese medicine and has been used for ages in remedying a number of conditions including rheumatoid arthritis.

According to the new research out of the University of Minnesota’s Masonic Cancer Center, the thunder god plant compound led to no signs of tumors after a 40 day period — even after discontinuing the treatment. Published in the journal Science Translational Medicine and funded by the National Institutes of Health, even the scientists working on the project were stunned by the anti-cancer properties of the compound. Known to contain something known as triptolide, which has been identified as a cancer fighter in previous research, it is thought to be the key component that may be responsible for the anti-tumor capabilities.

Study leader and vice chairman of research at the Cancer Center explained to Bloomberg how he was blown away by the effects of the simple plant:

“This drug is just unbelievably potent in killing tumor cells,” he said.

And just like with numerous other powerful substances like turmeric and ginger, mainstream science is still slowly confirming what many traditional practitioners have known for their entire lives. This is, of course, due to the fact that there is simply no money for major corporations in researching the healing powers of natural herbs and compounds such as the compound found in the thunder god vine. Turmeric and ginger, for example, have been found to be amazing anti-cancer substances that are virtually free compared to expensive and dangerous cancer drugs.

Nevertheless, the Big Pharma sponsored corporate scientists have managed to ignore these spices as much as possible. In fact, they have even been caught time and time again faking thousands of studies to fraudulently demonstrate the supposed value of pharmaceutical drugs pushed by major pharma juggernauts — many of which are later forced to pay millions in fines which only slightly stack up against their billions in profits.

Profits that are threatened by the many real studies that were performed by scientists examining the rejeuvenating power of cheap ingredients like turmeric, which has been found by peer-reviewed research available on PubMed to positively influence over 590 conditions.

While it is great news that this study is bringing the beneficial effects of inexpensive and near-free plant compounds to light, the bad news is that the individuals responsible for the research are actually looking to create a pharmaceutical drug from the essential component triptolide. A drug that will seek FDA approval and ultimately be patented, nutritionally ruined, and sold for exorbitant amounts of cash. Instead, just get your hands on some thunder god vine for yourself.

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  • Fat Albert

    Man, I just get the baaad feeling that the Thunder God Vine aint never gonna see the light of day. If it does, its gonna be like Carnivora … much too EXPENSIVE for the average “working man” to afford. hey hey hey. We all know how it is … the folks selling the stuff ( if it ever even makes it into the marketplace without running afoul of the FDA + Big Pharma ) will recognize that folks are “desparate” to OBTAIN the stuff, and, in the true spirit of GREED, they will sell the resulting Thunder God Vine pills and extracts at outrageous prices! In short, regular, ground level “working folks” are still gonna go right on dyin’ of cancer. And that’s just flat out “wrong”, man. hey hey hey, it really shouldn’t BE that way.

  • Karen Smith

    My dog was diagnosed with a softball sizwdccancerous tumor on her spleen and b/c of her age we elected against removal. Any suggestions?

  • Roberto Garcia Rexach

    May you find in this herb the cure and may God bless your brother and your family.

  • http://www.nagrobki-lodzkie.pl nagrobki łódź ceny

    I rarely leave a response, however i did some searching
    and wound up here Chinese Plant Compound Wipes Out Cancer in 40 Days
    Says New Research. And I actually do have some questions for you if it’s allright. Is it only me or does it look as if like a few of these responses appear as if they are left by brain dead folks? :-P And, if you are writing at other places, I would like to keep up with anything new you have to post. Would you list of all of all your shared sites like your Facebook page, twitter feed, or linkedin profile?

  • Josh Ruppert

    also go to http://www.bbc.co.uk and use the search bar. Punch in "mint leaf starves cancer" and see the article or follow this link http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/3870231.stm

  • Josh Ruppert

    I have another solution for cancer.
    It's called Bhan Zhi Lian and can be bought at http://www.ancientway.com search the website tool with the name i justr provided.
    You will see a 5/1 extract and that is the correct product. It's a water based powder. You will need a "oo" size gelcap machine and some gelcaps or veggie caps. Fill the capsules and then eat 3 grams a day(equivalent to 15 grams of root) that should be about 9 gel caps filled mostly full.
    There's lots of research about the cancer fighting benefits and there's no side effects unlike thunder god vine besides a tiny bit of drowsiness. I have eaten the powder and it fine. Plus there's 2000+ years of chinese medicine and now university studies to prive the effectivness of this cancer fighter.
    The best part is the cost…. $17 buys 100 grams so that should be a monthly supply.
    Hope that helps you in time. Josh

  • B.B.

    a whole paragraph in this article is constituted by an incomplete sentence. great info', but…is the author illiterate?

  • Tracy

    Steve Jobs could not buy himself a cure..think about that…they use plant compounds all the time to make medicines…problem is is that a lot of them taken in the dosage needed are toxic…however…nothing wrong with eating right, exercising and watching stress levels…along with using some spices like curcumin, etc.

  • Cheryl

    A Word of Caution

    I’m a graduate student of Eastern medicine that covers extensive studies in Chinese herbs and formulas. The primary book recognized as the foremost authority on Chinese herbs in China translated in English is “Chinese Herbal Medicine, Meteria Medica,” Third Edition, compiled and translated from Chinese to English by Dan Bensky, Steven Clavey, Erich Stoger and Andrew Gamble. The herb “lei gong teng” is listed in Chapter 19 Obsolete Substances under the category of Section 1: Substances with Unacceptable Toxicity. On page 1051 to 1053, lei gong teng is stated to be toxic: “This herb is highly toxic and its use has resulted in numerous deaths.” It is contraindicated for the following: “Contraindicated in those with cardiac, hepatic, renal, or gastrointestinal problems; anyone with arrhythmias or anemia; during pregnancy or lactation; and for the debilitated.” Under the Key Characteristics, lei gong teng is used for: “cools heat, resolves toxicity, soothes the sinews, invigorates the blood, unblocks clumping, reduces swelling and pain, kills parasites, alleviates itching; YET TOXIC WITH MANY SIDE EFFECTS.”

    A word of caution: please consult with a professional, licensed and educated Chinese herbalist before attempting to self-administer with lei gong teng (aka Thunder God Vine). Just because this herb and others have received some positive media coverage claiming to cure chronic and/or fatal diseases, do not always take it for granted that they are safe to use without proper administration. I am pleased that a natural herb such as lei gong teng is undergoing research to help cure diseases of cancer, however, it is important to know all the other side effects that any particular herb may have, and in this instance, “the cure could be more toxic and deadly than the disease itself.” This word of caution is not coming from the FDA or any other governmental agency or pharmaceutical corporate interest. The information I provided above is derived directly from the source: Chinese herbal experts with hundreds (and even thousands of years) of research and administered observations. Good luck.

    Acupuncture Today http://www.acupuncturetoday.com/archives2004/jan/

    NIH http://nccam.nih.gov/health/tgvine

    Asian Anti-Cancer Materia Database http://www.asiancancerherb.info/Lei%20Gong%20Teng

  • Nancy

    Sour sop ( Graviola ) looks like a fruit when cut in half the meat of the fruit is white with black seeds resembles the meat of a pineapple except its white. a it is not expensive , it grows in the middle east , pack,afgan, Vietnam etc. Latino cook with this in several dishes during the Holidays. You can BUY this extract at a any large organic produce store …i get mine from Tonys Produce in North Riverside Illinois in the frozen food sec. for $3.00 iam going to have them ordering me a case of it fresh.There is a chain of Tonys Produce in Illinois……or any Asian market …..I know nothing about trying to grow this here in the U.S.A. or if it would be successful due to are climate. I use a lot of Turmeric fresh root not powder get it at any Asian Store of India that use this daily in there cooking or Amazon ,com mail order $6.99 a pound…..Google Turmeric my husband with the Grace of God and the fresh green leafy vegetables and fruits her put on this earth .has just beat cancer with no chemo or radiation Google Juicing for Cancer……..hope this helps……..God Bless

  • http://www.nexopia.com/users/pain9tree/blog Isabel

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  • david

    StemDetox worked with various cancers, including prostate and breast. Of course, if you review the 110 ingredients, it becomes clear that many wild/organic ingredients alone would be beneficial for cancer. Great savings in this combination. http://oradix.com/products/Stemdetox-%252d-detoxi

  • DRK

    I am in the 10th day of preparing Thunder God Root for my wife who has squamous cell carcinoma which has spread throughout her lymph system. She has surpassed the two years given her last month and is doing extremely well on a supplement program along with the Thunder God Root. I acquired the root through a Chinese medical emporium in Asia and have ordered a full 40 day supply supplied through a friend located there. I am taking three large cups of water and incorporating the root at a rapid boil for 1 hour and 10-15 minutes and then drinking. She has not felt better in the past 2 1/2 years. A scheduled scan on the 5th of March hopefully will show some improved results.

    • http://nicoleteix@optonline.net Nicole

      Where can i purchase this thunder god root? It would be for my dad with recurrence of pancreatic cancer, many blessing to ur wife!!!

      • Hermes Trismegistus

        On a related note: A compound or group of compounds found in certain mushrooms (Turkey Tail is one) that are called polysaccharides, are used to treat cancer in Japan, China, and if memory serves me correct, also in Australia. Google PSK, PSP, polysaccharides, etc… A number of actual studies have shown their effectiveness as in reducing cancer treatment side effects, and in anti cancer effects.

    • heilet ferreira

      How is your wife doing on the treatment and what did the scans show? I’ve got agressive breast cancer and is busy with chemo. Would like to know more about your wife’s treatment and progress.

  • http://www.ghanafootballtalent.com kwabena osei bonsu

    this is great news to all

  • nicholas

    hey people we are all fighting over which what works better..the skinny…whole raw foods….organically grown…healing with medical marijuana, you need to be eating healthy also…for this to work…eat the whole raw bud daily…eat to sustain a healthy body, mind…..5500yr chinese herb cannabis and now we know that we can trace the herb back millions of years.we are all connected..the plants and trees are the cure…not eating the animals…dmt in every living thing..

  • VoxPop

    Also check out the conspiracy between cash-for-cancer collection organizations, FDA & Big Pharma. None of these want a cure for cancer – they love their gravy train too much.

  • rgray222

    I don't think that it is any secret that the pharmaceutical companies have no interest in curing patients, they only want to treat patients. Putting people on maintenance drugs only serves to deliver long term profit , curing patients would put them out of business. The FDA is complicit in this "pills for profit" scheme. There are drugs in the FDA awaiting and undergoing approval that have been there for decades, with little hope of approval. Most research doctors will admit to this but they really don't want to believe that there is an active conspiracy to intentionally hold drugs back. This is precisely why most drugs are developed and made in the USA.

  • Mary

    Heard that Sabah Snake Grass can also cure cancer….

  • tanya corta

    My brother-inlaw was recently diagnosed with pancreatic cancer. He is very young with three amazing children. How can we get a hold of the thunder god vine in order for him to be treated. This sounds very substantial for him to be completely healed from this horific cancer that may result in taking his life way too soon from his family and loved ones that need him. Please, please give us hope and direction to cure this disease.

    • jill.rifkind

      When using Chinese herbs, it is best to have them prescribed by a Chinese medicine practitioner such as an acupuncturist/ herbalist. This article does not explain that Chinese medicine works by pattern identification and treatment with a formula, not just one herb. The patients may have been treated with an herbal formula containing thunder god vine but it would differ from patient to patient.

      • EUnderhill

        This is true with any herbal system. For example, I was plagued by severe migraine headaches. I tried Feverfew and found it to be partially effective. Feverfew by itself did not get rid of the migraines but made them bearable. So I did more research into other herbs to try in addition to the Ferverfew. I discovered Skullcap was an anti-inflammatory herb and used it with the Feverfew. These two herbs mixed together in equal parts proved to be quite effective at getting rid of the migraines as long as I took the two herbs. Eventually I found out why I was getting them in the first place. I was deficient in magnesium, zinc and the B vitamin complex. Now I no longer need either herb to keep migraines away.

  • Jackie

    It is hard to trust anything that comes our from the Free Masons. Maybe they are planning on only using it for themselves.

  • huMAN

    If you're interested in anti-cancer drugs, look into Dr Burzynski. It's phenomenal what he's endured to keep his medicine alive against big pharma, the FDA, and the NCI. There's a documentary about it all. 5 grand juries and they couldn't shut him down.

    Youtube search: "Dr Burzynski movie"

  • Lori

    My son has stage 3 metastatic mekonoma what is the best

    • Debbie

      Lori, please contact CIndy Wheatcraft in Ohio. She is Dr. Robert O. Young-trained microscopist. She owns & operates a wellness center & does nutritional counseling on the alkaline diet. She has reversed stage 4 cancer in her clients & cured herself of breast cancer (invasive ductal carcinoma) on The pH Miracle diet & lifestyle plan. Her phone number is: (216) 346-1894. http://www.cindyscreativehealingcenter.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9qejUElQKw
      Good luck & God bless you & your son.

  • Song Solli

    1), Den kinesiske planten "tordenguden vine" eller lei gong Teng, er en svært giftig plante. Den bør ikke spises eller drikkes. Den skader ikke bare mage-tarmkanalen, den skader også det sentrale nervesystemet, inkludert thalamus, midthjernen, medulla oblongata, lillehjernen og ryggmargen. I tillegg forårsaker den blødninger og nekrose av leveren, hjertet.
    Som et forebyggende tiltak, bør den være forbudt for pasienter som lider av hjerte, lever, nyrer, mage og andre organiske lidelser og gravide kvinner.
    2), Kliniske behandlinger er vanligvis for spedalskhet, revmatoid artritt. Den brukes utvortes maksimum i 30 minutter.
    3), Denne planten er svært giftig for mennesker, griser og insekter. Men den har ingen toksitet for sauer, kaniner, katter, rotter, fisk.
    4), Bivirkningene er avhengig av hvor stor dose en tar. Desto større den vanlige dosen er, er bivirkningene mer åpenbare.
    Bivirkningene:
    —–Skader mage-tarmkanalen.
    —–Skader reproduksjonssystemet.
    —–Hud og slimhinner, inkludert oral mucosa erosjon, sår, utdypet hud pigmentering og håravfall, osv.
    —–Kan føre til reduksjon av leukocytt.
    —–Noen pasienter kan utvikle arytmi, eller EKG-forandringer.
    5), Giftige komponenter av denne planten kan vaskes vekk med eter (kjemisk).
    6), Anti-kreft:
    —–Menneskelig nasopharyngeal carcinoma ED50.
    —– Har betydelig innvirkning på murine leukemi L61.
    —– kan hemme brystkreft og fire celler av magekreft, og helbredelses % er over 70.
    7), Anti-inflammatorisk:
    —– Hemmer adjuvant leddgikt.
    —– Hemmer granulomer i rotter.
    —– Hemmer høyere permeabilitet av skin kapillær i rotter forårsaket av eksperimentelle felles hevelse og histam.
    8), Fra begynnelsen av behandlingen for revmatoid artritt, er denne planten etter hvert blitt brukt til mange andre hudsykdommer inkludert erythematosus. På grunn av bivirkningene, brukes den bare for leddsykdom og pustuløs psoriasis i dag.

    • andro

      translation of the above (from bing):
      Song Solli says:
      January 7, 2013 at 4: 09 pm

      1), the Chinese plant “Thunder God vine” or rent gong Teng, is a highly toxic plant. It is recommended not to eat or drink. It damages not only the gastrointestinal tract, it also damages the central nervous system, including the thalamus, the brain, the medulla oblongata, cerebellum and spinal cord. As well as causing the bleeding and necrosis of the liver, the heart.
      As a preventive measure, it should be forbidden for patients suffering from heart, liver, kidneys, stomach and other organic disorders, and pregnant women.
      2), clinical treatments are usually for leprosy, rheumatoid arthritis. It is used external maximum for 30 minutes.
      3), this plant is highly toxic to humans, pigs, and insects. But it has no toksitet of sheep, rabbits, cats, rats, fish.
      4), side effects will depend on how much dose a taking. The greater the usual dosage, side effects are more obvious.
      Side Effects:
      — — Damage to the gastrointestinal tract.
      — — Damages reproductive system.
      — — A skin and mucous membranes, including the oral mucosa erosion, ulcer, elaborated on skin pigmentation and hair loss, etc.
      — — Can lead to reduction of Leukocyte.
      — — Some patients may develop arrhythmias or ECG changes.
      5), toxic components of this plant can be washed away with ether (chemical).
      6), Anti-Cancer:
      — — Human nasopharyngeal carcinoma ED50.
      — — Has a significant impact on murine leukemia L61.
      — — may inhibit breast cancer and four cells of stomach cancer, and the healing is over 70%.
      7), anti-inflammatory:
      — – Inhibits adjuvant arthritis.
      — – Inhibits granulomas in rats.
      — – Inhibits higher permeability of the skin capillary in rats caused by experimental joint swelling and histam.
      8), From the beginning of treatment for rheumatoid arthritis, the rate of growth gradually become used to the many other skin disorders including erythematosus. Because of the side effects, it is used only for joint disease and Pustular psoriasis today.

      So what’s with this? Use or not? And if externally, how?

  • Binah Bindell

    Simcha Gottlieb –While much of what's written here is true, this is a highly irresponsible piece of journalism that could do terrible damage. The herb in question, lei gong teng, is highly toxic and should only be administered by an expert practitioner of Chinese herbal medicine, if at all (herbal textbooks discourage its use in modern clinical practice) – and only with proper differential diagnosis and in appropriate combination with other medicinal herbs, etc. … This "just get yourself some" advice could kill, literally. I'm no fan of big pharma, but this type of info should encourage going to responsible, knowledgable herbalists…. End of rant.

    • EUnderhill

      I agree. Before using any herb, research should be performed on it's safety before taking it. Not all herbs are safe. Some are safe but only for a short term for instance. There are other issues to be considered as well. People get yourself some herbal text books. The used book stores are loaded with them for a low price.

  • Kathy S

    Johanna Budwig from Germany had a cure for cancer through diet and had something like a 95% cure rate. Anyone can follow her protocol, just do a search for Johanna Budwig, or Budwig diet. Yahoogroups had a very active group that discusses her diet/protocol and you can read many testimonials from members who've tried it. Also look up Essiac, which is an herbal treatment created by a nurse in Canada. This is readily available, but you have to be careful to get the right one as there are copycats which are apparently less effective. Also Pau d'Arco and red clover tea are helpful. But diet is the biggest thing. As noted previously, vegetarian diets are most helpful, making effort to eat more alkaline-forming foods. Read Fell's Optimal Guide to Health and Wellness. It's an excellent book that lays out in very simple language how your body functions and how a proper (alkaline) diet can lead to better health.

  • tim

    it's awesome discovery. i second the dissatisfaction with big pharma and ignoring what actually works. somehow the business of curing people is more important then actually curing people. We know plant based diets (90% plants) cure people for a number of years of all types of disease but you need to do your own research to get that info – not many who are making a profit from these diseases will give you this info.

  • vlad

    hi all can anyone tell me how to use cannabis oil correctly, against cancer tumor???

    • Hugo

      phoenixtears.ca
      good luck :)

  • wing

    does anyone know where in the US we can find this sort of plant?

    • Tom

      ebay, get soursop from indonesia

  • Z Roman

    I am so glad I stumbled upon this article. Yet another reason why we should have faith in plants and natural things when it comes to tackling illness. I have heard that pure concord grape juice and baking soda strongly help with defeating cancer as well.

  • Anonymous

    Too bad average people won't be ale to afford it. Then they will turn to cooking meth to pay their medical treatments. What a joke.

  • Jesse

    I own the seed for the soursop……easy to grow and easy to eat. I cannot find this thunder god vine’ or lei gong teng seed anywhere…….I also heard it is a complicated food to eat. if you eat the wrong part, it could kill you. Does anyone know where you can get the seed and how to process it properly so it can be consumed safely?

    • Liz

      Please tell me where i can get this herb from

    • Carol

      This plant grows wild in the woods, shade or sun light, sends out runners under the ground, in the fall the flower that you see becomes a pod. Looks like a giant wild violet, very hard to get rid of it, has strong roots. Wonder what part of this plant is used…….

    • Roselene Haines

      What is soursop and what is it used for?

      • Tom

        Check on ebay, you can buy soursop there. Be sure you get one from Indonesia not from the USA

    • Fatima Rinquest

      Where can I get the seeds for soursop please? I take the capsules that contain Graviola (soursop) but it is expensive.

  • M Schultz

    For those in need of treatment of Cancer, who seek the non toxic approach, see Dr. Nicolas Gonzalez in New York City. Dr Gonzalez has been successfully treating Cancer for the past 20 years. He is a national treasure.

    See http://www.dr-gonzalez.com

    • omoighe mero

      Can it cure cancer that has stayed 4 long?

  • Roger

    This is awesome!!!

    My only disagreement is the articles assumption that pharma doesn't care about herbs. Not true. They care a great deal, when they can profit.

    Peptobismol is based on ginger. And I believe Viagara was synthesized based on a south American herb (correct me if I'm wrong).

    The question is will they see it as a profitable? Remember it takes 10years and millions of dollars to get anything approved by the FDA. So it better make it's money back.

    I guess we'll see. I hope more research is done.

  • Chris

    I'm surprised no one has mentioned MMS….

    Although this site sells it (extremely cheap), it provides excellent information on how it works….
    http://www.mmshealthyforlife.com/

  • Davan Trappe

    Could it help with throat cancer?

  • Davan Trappe

    Can it help with throat cancer??

  • RANDY

    CHARLOTTE Get some Cannabis Oil asap…..Probably cost about $ 1500

  • OM

    Hi EveryOne,

    Look at the research and side effects and way to prepare this before using….not to be used for certain Cancers and must be prepared correctly

    http://www.acupuncturetoday.com/archives2004/jan/… Your Health!

    • esther

      I worry that desperately sick people will misuse this herb so I spoke with an integrative oncologist, Dwight Mckee MD (Google) and he said that this plant has serious potential and also serious toxicity–it needs to be carefully studied. There are hundreds of deaths reported every year in China due to this plant–only the root can be used, and it must be carefully skinned of all bark–all other parts of the plant are extremely poisonous, from which the common name derives–you eat the plant, and the thunder god strikes you dead… There is some evidence that the toxicity of the compounds (which are very potent anti-inflammatories, and also immune suppressants) may be antidoted by thiols, such as NAC, lipoic acid, etc.

      • Anonymous

        Go to Turmeric.. Half tea spoon everyday .. U are safe.

    • Lisa
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    • http://www.patrickcrusade.org Sherry

      Really interesting wikipedia write up. The history of this word is very symbolic of mysteries. Triptolemus, and it's reported healing powers, sounds like a wonderful mystery in the healing properties of the plant world on earth. As with any natural remedy, it is always wise to find out what is safe, appropriate, and beneficial to the whole body system. A good physician will treat the entire physical and non-physical body as a whole unit before prescribing something to the patient. Perhaps this idea is part of the mystery :-)

  • Grace

    If these plants are being grown with East China Sea or Sea of Japan based radioactive waters they will be rendered useless or dangerous.

    Learn to make Rick Simpson oil at home for cancer. You can youtube or internet search for it.

    People would never have to worry about corporate, government, human, or machine fatal errors with medicines if they grew their own.

    That's the way it was for all of time until 1824 in America. Since then pharmceutical medicines have created more problems than they have solved.

  • http://www.jefflundgren.com Jeff

    One reason I think this is effective, is because Tripterygium is a NRF2 activator, which all NRF2 activators have been shown to be turmor fighting and chemo-preventative.

    See this research: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22820427

  • eve Robinson

    Anyone know how to use this chinese herb THUNDER GOD VINE. eve

  • Beth

    What can I do if I am allergic (severely) to raw fruits and vegetables? I can only have them (except pineapple) if they are cooked which changes the protein that I react to. Can I blend these fruits/vegetables after they are cooked or does that ruin the efficacy of them altogether in terms of health benefits?

    • Austin

      Lucky for you, Beth, it's totally okay to cook one's fruits and veggies. In fact, cooking things like spinach, carrots, and mushrooms makes it easier to digest and absorb the nutrients your body needs.

      • riley

        juicing fruits and vegetables makes it easier for your body to digest and absorb….cooking some vegetable will help break down goitragens that some people may be sensitive to, these goitragens can also interfere with iodine uptake

        • Salman

          Agreed with Riley. You would need to take quite large quantities of fruit and and veggies to extract sufficient quantities of beneficial enzymes and nutrients to have any therapeutic effect on your body. Slow masticating juicers of less than 90 RPM, will extract the maximum amount of enzymes and nutrients by breaking the cellular fibre wall of the fruit and vegetable making it more digestible and assimiable to the body.

    • RP

      Are you sure you're allergic to the fruits and vegetables and not the chemicals used to grow, store ? Does the same happen with organically grown and sold fruit and veg ?

    • riley

      uh if you are really allergic to fruits and veggies you may want to look into why and what is going on in you gut…. you may have leaky gut

    • AmieR

      BETH, I may have some good news for you… I too went for many years believing that I was allergic to fresh fruits an veg. I used to get hives around my mouth, felt like my throat was itching inside and on one ocassion felt like my throat was closing. Acidic produce had the worst reaction. I always kept liquid bendryl on the house on case of accidental ingestion. A friend told me she didnt believe I was truely allergic to the plants, or fruitsveg. She convinced me to try organic strawberries. She washed them in a sink full of water with half cap of bleach amd rinsed extremely well. First of all I was shocked to see what came off the strawberries,how much dirt. I actually tried one against my better judgment with no reaction. She said most commercial farmers use pesticides and she believed that was my problem and why I was allergic. My mother had a problem witn prairie farms milk making her sick with intestinal problem but the buying orgamic

    • http://www.preventionispower.com Leslie Lackey

      Have you looked into Juice Plus? Been around for 20 yrs…17 raw juiced & flash dried fruits & veggies with enzymes perserved (& 9 berries) put into a capsule or chewable gummie…the most researched nutritional product by far in the marketplace with 28 published 3rd party medical journal papers on people taking it. MANY people with allergies can take Juice Plus because it by-passes the saliva (which triggers) so they are able to obtain the nutrition of these powerhouse foods….cerified to have no pesticides or artificial ingredients….only pure whole food…..something to look into if you haven't…I'd be happy to help

    • paulie

      You could try the Primal Diet, if your brave enough. It has a 95% cure rate for cancer. It may seem crazy but it worked for a friend of mine.

  • Diane

    Yes good luck Charlotte. You should also check You Tube videos for baking soda and molasses cancer cure. Someone with prostate cancer did this after being told he had 6 months by his oncologist. Check your PH levels too. I'm not sure I'd do chemo myself these days, it seems to do more harm than good. You also should change your diet eat only organic. The chemicals in our food is terrible. Also never take any vaccines, none of them have been studied for carcinogenic or mutagenic effects according to the package ingredient labels.

  • Peyote Short

    I am skeptical of claims that there is a universal conspiracy to suppress herbal cures.

    Is there a scientist alive who doesn't want his name on the cure for cancer?

    • Rachel Frink

      Not if the pharmaceuticals are paying big money to squash cancer cures or killing the scientists. Baby it's a war out there with the big pharm companies.

    • Tammy

      No…. no scientist alive… if he was before he claimed to find a cure. This is no joke. Men and women alike have been financially ruined and run out of business for claiming such. Just google "financially ruined for claiming cure for cancer" All kinds of info. Sad but true.

    • http://healing-yoga.com Lori

      Not unless he can make money on it …and if grows in the ground and is free…rather hard to patent. They can make more money forcing pharmaceuticals on everyone. One has to be very AWARE to find their cure hence why people share like this…

    • Kathy S

      Read the book When Healing Becomes a Crime. It's a real eye-opener.

    • Dan

      No, but money talks. Big Pharma, hospitals and doctors would go broke if people would realize that what you eat is 95% of all your health problems!!!!! Why do you think NO studies are done on "Natural Cures" There has to be a reason. THe "PAT" answer you get from your doctor is " Well, it hasen't been proven to help".
      Just once I would like to hear them say, Well, it has been shown to help or, It has been proven it cures>>>>>>" or even Well, it has been proven not to work in independent studies!!!!!

    • justaguest

      It's not about the scientists; I used to do cancer research at MD Anderson in Texas. Every researcher I ever met was sincere…but they do not decide what you do or do not get to hear about. Articles to journals routinely get rejected and certain studies generally do not get funding to begin with…

    • ssmiller

      Money in a word. The drug companies make billions, 100's of billions, on cancer treatment, medicines, chemo, etc. Greed – pure and simple – is why you'll never hear about very inexpensive herbal treatments from the drug companies.

    • Cecille Chan

      Have you seen the movie "Burzynski, the movie" ? You should rent that quickly. The other two movies you need to watch are free on line: "Thrive" and "Zeitgeist". If you truly want to get educated about the truth, watch these movies. You can also follow my lead: I read an average of 65 books a year, any book that I can get my hands on to make sure I know both sides of any equation. I also make it clear that I can change my mind about anything if I find new facts that support that move. I refuse to be lazy like most people that constantly blabber from both sides of their mouth yet refuse to do the work to educate themselves. I also refuse to be narrow-minded by shutting any information out before thoroughly researching it. And yes, I work full time and still manage to read this much. I also have to exert a bit more effort since English is only my secondary language.

    • PJeg

      I know a man to whom they murdered just the day before he was to open his cancer-free clinic. He was able to CURE cancer.

      • Peter

        There are numerous Cancer Therapies that work. maybe you should investigate Marijuana Oil. Here are a few LInks- http://phoenixtears.ca/ , http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKsq90jWFuA
        Like Josef said above , another very important thing to do is to get your Body Alkaline. Cancer only grows in an Acidic Body and most's people's bodies are Acidic because of Environmental Conditions and ALL the sprays (Poisons) that are used to grow food let alone GMO Foods which give you Cancer DIRECTLY

    • Peter

      What PLANET have you been living on. BIG PHARMA is about Killing people , not saving them.

    • brother daniel

      yeah,the scientist who wants to acquire and/or keep his/her research grant.more to be gained by perpetuating the problem it appears.

  • josef

    First things first, first, I'm not a doctor, and I have no medical degrees what's so ever. Everything I know is from reading online, with that said the initial thing you should do is get your PH levels checked, I would suspect you have an acidic base PH you need to bring it up to an alkaline (cancer can't live in an oxygen enriched environment) the best way to do this is to buy a juicer and a blender. The blender is for everything you can't juice strawberries, blueberries, raspberries, etc. the next thing to add to your diet is foods with B17, or laetrile, http://www.livestrong.com/article/85705-foods-ric… apricot seed is the richest source of Vitamin B17. The kernel of the apricot can be cracked open to get to the seed. 7 a day should be enough. And the last thing, just stays away from processed sugar.

    • http://www.passingbucks.com/ Frank

      Black strap molasses and baking soda will raise ph levels very quickly. a teaspoon of each 2 x a day mixed with water.

    • Dan

      EXCELANT, this helped cure my wifes inoperable lung cancer.!!!!!!!!! More people to know about alkalinity and how it alone can heal the body of all Illneses

      • Lee

        Is anyone aware of any good treatment for COPD?

    • Joan

      THANKS

    • Charlie Chong

      Beside using Baking Soda, I would suggest to get a alkaline ionise water machine, it produces alkaline pH range 9-11pH with anti-oxidant ORP level of more than 450 level.
      Regards
      Charlie Chong

    • LennieSchoolMarm

      whatsoever*

      You're welcome.

    • Stuart Bedford

      Hi Josef, Being involved in swimming pools many years ago I understood that PH was very important, I fully support your conclusions, recently, I have done a 60 day juice fast, http://www.fatsickandnearlydead.com and have lost 40 lbs. so far. I am 65 and would highly recommend you pay attention to what Josef says.

  • S.R.Haralds

    I have known for a long time that the pharmaceutical companies are conspiring AGAINST the public to get their hands on a cure for cancer so that they can keep on making BILLIONS with their revolting "cancer" medicine !! There is absolutely no doubt in my mind about this fact. Over a 100 years of cancer research and billions upon billions going into that research and they still have not found a cure for cancer??? Tell me another one !

    • Fatima Rinquest

      Totally agree with you. My husband had cancer and they insist on Chemo. I am trying alternative natural remedies because i dont want to a skeleton like him after chemo therapy.

  • Anonymous

    B17 (in apricot stones and similar fruits), shark cartillage, cannabis, mistletoe and all the herbs and spices i can't remember (ginger, turmeric etc) all fight cancer. All info is available online if you search correctly :)

  • BUDS FERNANDO

    Where can I get hold of this plant? Is this grown only in China?

    • Charlotte Rhoda

      I am on chemotherapy for Ovarian Cancer. Please let me know how I can get some. I want to live so bad.

      • Anonymous

        Here it seems you can buy it Charlotte.. good luck.
        http://secure.herbies-herbs.com/index.php?option=

      • riley

        also look into sour sop from the graviola tree it is 10,000 times stronger at killing cancer cells than chemo

        • Gavin

          have read about sour sop. i had the trees on maui, but have moved to appalachia. does anyone package sour sop in any formula?

          as for the thunder vine, is there a latin botanical name for it?

        • Jesse

          I own the seed for the soursop……easy to grow and easy to eat. I cannot find this thunder god vine’ or lei gong teng seed anywhere…….I also heard it is a complicated food to eat. if you eat the wrong part, it could kill you.

      • Tammy

        Charlotte.. have you looked into mexican cancer clinics? They are saving people over there…. including me. :)

      • Marjorie Metcalfe

        Hi Charlotte, I have been in remission from cancer of the spleen for over 2 years now. After researching cancer, I found that food combining helps to make your body more alkaline and that to only drink water with a little bit of lemon juice and adding a pinch of bicarb soda to it also (leading up to 1/4 teaspoon) Lemon juice, although acidic, once digested turns to alkaline your system. Cancer can only survive in an acidic body. My cancer was supposed to come back in 6 months but I am still proving the doctors wrong. Good Luck.

        • Cathy

          How wonderful! what type of cancer did you have?

      • grail

        CHARLOTTE
        Immediately do a search on Johanna Budwig.(Dr.).Her technique(totally simple, no drugs to buy, no potions etc. either) This works every time-have seen it time and time again, for real. Can use with chemo. Much info out there. You can get well. Take care

    • ALEXANDER

      WHERE CAN YOU BUY THIS ? PLEASE

      • Erich Loewen

        My name is Erich and I am interested in this Chinese plant, can I buy it?
        My email: ejloewen@msn.com
        Erich Loewen
        5010 NE 99th. St.
        Vancouver Washington 98665 USA
        360-573-7225