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  1. blank Anonymous says:

    In the "7.139" should it be 7139?

    1. I agree it was 7,139 not 7.139 CPM and it was one geiger counter's readings being published on two sites; Blackcat and Radiation Watch. Cover up or malfunction of individual's geiger.

      1. blank Anonymous says:

        the counters were from separate networks and corroborate each others' data

        1. blank karlos detreaux says:

          Wrong. One guy, one geiger…two sites via a virtual serial port interface. I am a member, monitor for Kauai and spoke to him personally.

          1. blank Thomas Miller says:

            He's had this problem before. It's a problem when using an adapter to convert from RS-232 to a USB port… USB is a 3 volt signal with a transition around a volt, far less noise-immune than the 12 volt signal it was designed to use.

  2. blank amicus curiae says:

    seeing as "exersises" are always well publicised to prevent public panic..seems a lot odd to me.

  3. Perhaps, they are testing new weapons and it got out of control? However, I would suggest people "go around the us government" and its media to employ the Swiss or some other scientific forensics investigators. The Us government is a Criminal organization and cannot be trusted. Soil samples … ETC?

    1. blank Anonymous says:

      Their are test sites for those types of tests, the area in question is not near any of them. You might want to read the "Patriot Act" before making such statements about the gov. On the other hand making you own conclusion from your own research would be the wisest thing to do before adding to the ocean of panic.

  4. Explanation from Rad Net: http://radiationnetwork.com/Message.htm

    The same counter was feeding both Radiation Network and Black Cat, which explains the simultaneous malfunctions. As for the readings from the EPA: they are not abnormal. Check them out for yourself:

    https://cdxnode64.epa.gov/radnet-public/query.do

    All of the data is still available, and if you compare it to historical data you'll see that the readings of 182 CPM aren't that abnormal. And it goes without saying that they're nowhere near the >7000 levels of the malfunctioning meter.

    1. blank Actually on the netw says:

      Joachim,

      Thank you for some factual info in an ocean of "freakout". But please note that "Rad Net" is *not* the same as the RadiationNetwork.com. The EPA's RadNet has absolutely nothing to do with RadiationNetwork.com, and the fact that people keep conflating the two is causing even more confusion. I appreciate your comment and just wanted to point out this one critical fact.

      To everyone else who keeps assuming that RadiationNetwork.com is the same as the US Government's EPA RadNet, it is not at all the same thing and is not a part of any government agency.

      EPA RadNet is the EPA's network of professional grade, very expensive, complicated monitors, with stations all over the country. People can go to the EPA site if they want to look up info but they have a complicated and not very user-friendly website because there is so much data there and it is broken down into many different sub-types of radiation.

      The RadiationNetwork.com that some people have incorrectly been calling "Rad Net"is a "private network" of citizen geiger counter users who use their own counters at their location, and the software for the network sends their home readings to a central server. It is "private" in that customers can join the network by buying the software, which is very reasonably priced. The map showing the high reading that people keep posting with regard to this story is from the "public" map, as can be seen at the RadiationNetwork.com website. Members who are logged into the network can see much more detailed information from their own computers and also can chat with other users online.

      Blackcat Systems is the same general type of setup as RadationNetwork.com, except that they report in different units of measurement than RadiationNetwork.com does. I don't know much more about their network because I chose to join only the RadiationNetwork.com.

      But yes, people CAN be members of both of these networks as once. Most of the people on these networks run commercially available geiger counters, but some users build their own counters from scratch. Home built stuff does not always work perfectly, if you get my drift…

      If people want to NOT have to rely only on the government to get environmental radiation readings, they can join one of these private networks. I don't know the details about BlackCat Systems and if you have to have a geiger counter to join. But at RadiationNetwork.com you can join the network even if you don't have a geiger counter and you just want to be able to have access to all the features of the network.

      The RadiationNetwork.com is a commercial products ie "capitalism", so that's why you need to pay something to actually join the full featured networked version and get more than just the public map.

      All of what I have said about these networks can be pretty easily confirmed by just doing a little bit of research. If people want to know more about radiation levels, they could consider buying a geiger counter and/or joining one of the "private networks" that are really open to the public if they want to buy the product, much like many other groups for people who share a particular interest. The more people who have their own detectors, the harder it will be to cover things up.

      I won't be hanging around just to go back and forth with people claiming I am from the DOE or DoD or whatever. This is just some info for people who care about major errors in the story that people keep reporting about the radiation alert that happened the other night.

      1. blank Anonymous says:

        87% of the public base their opinions on other peoples findings, statements, or opinions. Only 13% actually do their own research to base their opinions on. This is when the majority fails.

  5. blank Anonymous says:

    If it was an error in the equipment, then the EPA and homeland security would not be trying to hide it! The levels would drop back to normal and they would go about there business!

    1. blank johnkulaya says:

      When is a drill not really a drill?

      1. When a Drill is not really a Drill?

        911 anyone?

    1. What exactly are we looking at here on this radar?

      1. I don't know. I haven't been able to find anyone able to explain it. If you click on it now, you can see weather moving thru to the right, but the circle over South Bend is still there…(It is supposed to be weather radar, but it is picking up something other than weather…..there has been a *circle* over South Bend since the incident.

  6. Ok so now both sites were working from the same geiger counter then why werent the numbers for both sites identicle? If i remember correctly they werent. It would be nice to get sum of the people that were in the area with their geiger counter readings as well… and yes there were a couple.. Im not buying this excuse.

  7. blank USNcorpsman says:

    I live in ND and Minot AFB is not running any exercises or planning any…just day to day activities for a base that holds the nations nukes and yes B-52's do land there but it would be a B-1 Lancer or the B-2 Spirits as the B-52's have been basically retired. Get your facts straight before you post on bases and planes used. ND is a military state us citizens fight yearly to keep our bases open and jobs in ND

    1. Yea, we know, nothing going on here, nothing to see, move along…

      we've all heard that one before.

      1. And don't forget that Minot was the base back in 2006 (?),where a B52 landed with 5 NUCLEAR armed cruise missiles after flying from Barksdale AFB with 6 !!! And then the crew involved started having fatal car, motorcycle accidents not too long after the story broke on Military.com

    2. USNcorpsman…..

      Perhaps before you tell others to get their facts straight you should get yours straight first. Your statement of "B-52's have been basically retired" is far from the truth. The B-52's are still the number one mode of transport for Nuclear Bombs. They have been reconfigured and even new one's built. Their cockpits are still under orders of NATIONAL SECURITY and you never see anyone up in there at air shows. Just this last year at Selfridge Air National Guard base I was inside the cockpit of a B1 lancer. What I'm saying is the B-52 is NOT retired and there are no plans for that for at least another 25 years. If it even happens then.

      1. That's exactly right. In fact, they've been commissioned to fly for 50 more years with retrofits ongoing. Humm. How do I know? Because I redesigned a part of the pilot's monitor so they can run them until they can retrofit "glass cockpits". Old CRT technology, but still, it's gotta fly at 70k feet and -55C.

  8. here more proof

    http://www.bellona.org/articles/articles_2011/Fer

    After being idled for repairs for two weeks, the Fermi 2 reactor of the Enrico Fermi Nuclear Generating Station was restarted Thursday night and then shut down again Saturday due to discovery that condenser tubes were leaking, the Monroe Evening News of Michigan Reported.

    Andrei Ozharovsky, Charles Digges, 12/02-2011

    “There are thousands of tubes that cooling water runs through, so we have to shut down to determine exactly where that’s coming from,” said Guy Cerullo, a spokesman for DTE Energy told the newspaper.

    Unplanned reactor scrams and prolonged repairs are not only a feature of Russian NPPs.

    After two weeks of repairs at the Fermi 2 plant, on the shore of Lake Erie near Monroe in Frenchtown Charter Township, Michigan, the reactor was launched on Thursday evening only to be shut down again on Saturday due to a leak in the condenser tubes.

    Cerullo said the second shutdown was not related to the repairs the reactor had been undergoing over the previous two weeks.

    Further comment sought by Bellona Web from DTE on Saturday was unavailable as no one picked up the telephone at its press office over the course of several calls.

    Incident largely underreported in US

    DTE Energy’s website has yet to publicly report the incident at its reactor. And although the story appeared in the small local Monroe Evening News, it has yet to be picked up by any large circulation US newspapers or television news programs.

    The US Nuclear Regulatory Commission Current Power Reactor Status Report for February 11, 2011, however, listed the reactor as operating at 2 percent of 100 percent capacity. No one reached at the NRC by Bellona Web on Saturday, however, had any direct knowledge of the event, and responsible parties could not return telephone calls by press time.

    Still unknown if radiation is leaking

    The Fermi 2 reactor was built by General Electric and is of the boiling water type, with a generating capacity of 1098 Megawatts. It is located 40 miles from Detroit, and went online in 1988. The only previous incident at the reactor occurred on June 6, 2010 when it was hit by a small Tornado, damaging the reactor’s building and automatically shutting it down.

    Reactors of the boiling water type have only one boiling loop which is radioactive. Water is boiled directly in the active zone of the reactor. Radioactive steam rises to turn the turbines after which the reactor is cooled by the blanket heat exchange.

    If the tubes of radioactive circuit are damaged, then there is a danger of radioactive contamination.

    1. blank Chet Lemon says:

      You know this is from December, right?

  9. Government denial of any event is all the confirmation that's needed. I know, I know…it's an Orwellian world we're living in.

  10. blank Banderman says:

    Let's see, the U.S. government, the media, and our alleged 'leaders' completely ignore and then let the Fukushima situation get so bad they have an 'excuse' to declare an 'emergency' and declare martial law. As much as democRATS and liberals yammer and pontificate about the environment, ad nauseam, all they really do is expose themselves as abject hypocrites and complete evil.

  11. blank William Chandler says:

    I believe THAT like I believe in the Tooth Fairy and Santa. Better start taking your Potassium Iodide.

    1. Better safe than sorry… too many witnesses and photos for this to be fake.

  12. blank eric in chicago says:

    The EPA site worked for me (not the graphics but the data links. It's not censored. And as for the folks going on about a cloud over the area,just do some research!

    it took me a minute to find the source of that radar feed, and like so many radar images, there's crazy interference at the center. go ahead and click around:

    http://weather.cod.edu/satrad/index.php?prod=site

  13. I have news for you. This is very real. I have been in that exact area the past 6-7 days. There are Gov. agents everywhere in that area. I have seen them, I have pictures. Many Pictures. Of the helicopter the emergency crews the road blocks, all of it. I am not B.S.ing any of this. Believe me they were all there. I got pics. This is a VERY remote out of the way place. We were repaving a rule farm road when this all happened. There were 28 belly dump trucks out there, going back n forth all day for 3 days. We all seen um there. THEY WERE ALL OUT THERE. This is a true story!

  14. Get lost, you DHS/TSA troll.

  15. You folks will see more military attacks like this in the USA.

  16. blank Constitution says:

    I guess you cant read, Plenty of proof.

  17. I live in Northwest Indiana and I haven't seen/heard anything out of the ordinary. I drove to and back from our Michigan office yesterday and saw absolutely nothing out of the ordinary. My trip took me from Gary IN to Detroit MI and traffic, roads, etc,. were the same as the hundred other times I've driven ( I no longer fly it because with security it's actually faster to drive it than fly) the same route. The only government vehicles I saw were state cops.

    1. Hi Bob,

      I guess you didn't Read my post. I'm in a Safe Place now. I went to Canada.

      Hope you have Fun down there.

    2. Thanks for the leg work. I am central/eastern Michigan here.

    3. Hey Bob, I am GodlyWomanOfTruth on YouTube <3

    4. We live in Sturgis, which is basically the border of Indiana/Michigan and I can at least confirm the helicopters as we've had an unusual amount of them lately that are not air rescue copters. However as for the rest of this, all I'm seeing is the article(s) state 'somewhere near the Michigan/Indiana border', but no where does it say exactly where. Iglarno above commented he toured the area with a gieger counter, but never said 'what' area. I live here, I would like to know this!

  18. No Kenny. It probably just means it was time for that maintenance you were talking about. Once the maintenance is done, they'll be back.

    Or not. They might be placed at another location.

    Of course if someone were really intestested, they would actually find out who was resposible for the vehicles and ASK what happened to them.

    That would mean getting off your Ass.

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