Maybe the Food Network should change their name to the Poison Café – after all, they are helping Monsanto with their PR campaign by airing commercials with the same message as their Prop 37 No to GMO Labeling Campaign. The same Monsanto ads appear in their magazine. Its time to unsubscribe from a Network that tries to sell GE seed and glyphosate through slick ads from one of the most hated companies in the world.
Similar to the advertisement that Oprah published in her magazine for Monsanto, the Food Network is running an ad showing a happy family gathered around a table passing food with happy smiles, as well as other propaganda trying to dismiss their Round Up Ready chemicals. The TV campaign is called “Food is Love.”
Say it with me – Monsanto doesn’t make food! They make chemicals like Round Up and Bt toxins, but certainly not food. Monsanto has created chemicals like Round Up (an herbicide), Agent Orange (used as a part of the United States’ ‘herbicidal warfare program), DDT (banned in 1972, DDT has been linked to damaging the liver), Dioxin (more very toxic chemicals), and much more. All of these things are the antitheses of healthful, healing food.
In the meantime, you can watch another commercial spoof of what we all really think of Monsanto, and reverse the propaganda.
Monsanto commercial (propaganda) being run on the Food Network and other mainstream media channels is not an true expression of real food. Voice your concerns and opinions with the Food Network and help everyone know that Monsanto can’t win over the unsuspecting public with propaganda.
It is good to see important people like Oprah use their position for good purposes. With help like hers more people will learn the truth about gmos and quit believing the lies of articles like this.
Nonsense. What lies? That Monsanto does not provide food? What kind of food do they provide? Please enlighten us…They sell chemicals and seeds, mostly GMO seeds for commodities; not food, not nutrition, not wholesome varied, unpolluted, nourishing food.
Monsanto sells over 2000 different seed varieties in 18 different crop families. So yes they do provide the means for people to produce food. Some of the gmos do indeed make it to the table as well, and yes they are just as nutritious as there organic counterparts.
Súper nutritious; laced with 3 to 5 times the herbicide! Yum! and with regards to the monopolizing of seeds that uses to be common property and the biopiracy; that is so socially responsible And enlightened. We have so much to thank Monsanto for, no wondering those folks on the advertisment are all smiles.
There are a lot of seed companies out there no one is monopolizing anything. My family has sold garden seed for generations and we still do. People have bought seeds for years Monsanto is doing nothing new. As far as your chemicals are concerned farmers have used them for decades. The ones today are much safer than the ones we used thirty years ago.
Please name another company that is developing and incorporating GMOs in food sold in the grocery stores currently?
Dow has several corn traits and a new bean trait that will be out next year, you also have Syngenta as well.
Isn’t Dow a chemical company. What are they doing with food stuffs?
DowAgrosciences is a diverse company that serves farmers with chemicals and seed. The traits that they developed are for farmer benefits, to help them grow food. Thanks to traits like Herculex farmers have been able to quit using soil applied insecticeds like the organophosphates that are truly dangerous for all concerned.
Substituting one dangerous poison for another (even if it a bit less poisonous, which is arguable) is not progress. Progress is being smart enough to understand that pests are a sign of severe imbalances in an amazing cycle of life that feeds and that for BILLIONS of years required no assistance or services from the likes of Monsanto.
There is also a hell of a lot of money out there, but it’s in very few hands. In the hands of hoarders, while billions starve. Same here. There are a lot of seed companies, but three or four own everything and Monsanto is the biggest hoarder.
There are several main companies along with a lot of regional companies as well. Yes Monsanto is the largest, but the haven’t been for vey long. It wasn’t that long ago that DuPont was on top and before that dekalb was the top corn seller.
Ohhh…ok, sorry. It hasn’t been for very long, so it’s ok. My bad.
Also GMO’s are proven less nutritious than conventional foods, and way behind organic foods. GMO’s have less vitamins, and way less minerals.
Strange how Stanford didn’t prove that. Neither does all the other lab results
Appart from being proven, it’s just common sense: plant and animal nutrition are not based on a complex balance of things that “chemical” agriculture cannot provide, especially if it uses herbicides that sequester nutrients and minerals.
If our chemicals tied up nutrients as you think then the plants would die, they would not be able to grow. Your logic is simply wrong.
Glyphosate-based herbicides all work on the same biochemical principle — they inhibit a specific enzyme that plants need in order to grow. The specific enzyme is calledEPSP synthase. Without that enzyme, plants are unable to produce other proteins essential to growth
Was that Stanford and Son?
Now you don’t respect one of the finest learning institutions in the country? You only respect simple minded people that agree with your narrow minded views.
THEY ARE NOT JUST AS NUTRICIOUS!!! GET OFF THIS SITE MONSANTO SPY!
They are every bit as nutritious and very few of the varieties are gmos. Just because someone improves things doesn’t make them bad does it? Look at your organic ruby red grapefruit is it bad?
Ok, prove it. Get us comparison numbers of nutrient values between organic and GMO products. And while your at it, you can also explain how a GMO crop field can contaminate a non GMO field. That’s not natural
Cross pollination isn’t natural? Ever hear of cross breeding? After you learn the basics put on your big boy pants and check out Stanford’s study on organic vs gmos on nutrition.
GmoMust Go
Lol, they are only going to keep growing. Each day that passes without your horror stories coming true is more evidence of their safety. Eventually, the average person will be taught their safety and benefits and it your lies won’t even be an issue.
Lies—that’s why you are here..all you do is lie—-NO Frankenfood
I have not lied once and can back anything you want up with facts and references, unlike you.
YOU’RE RIGHT—NOT ONCE–just everytime you say anything you lie!
Any thing you wish to list is fine with me, but just using broad statements confirms that you are the one lying. Thanks for making things it easy.
Just heard your lies to list off the top of head you said: 1. Gmo have “zero negatives” 2. You said farmers “need Gmo” 3. You said drip irrigation doesn’t work on thousands of acres 4. You said the non-Gmo fed control pigs had same problems as the non gm fed pigs despite me showing you the results 5. You claim that Gmo would somehow help feed the world 6. You claim you are for gmos and for humanity those are mutually exclusive 7. You said 90 percent of people don’t care if they are eating Gmo…The only post where it seems you may be correct is in regard to Oprah (she did remove the ad but is still not a friend of ag)
You are so sad that you can’t even go over a few posts and get the right answers. But I guess lying is in your nature. First off I never said a word about irrigation of any kind. As for your pigs according to your precious study the rate of stomach inflammation of some kind was 94.5% for the non gmo fed pigs to 88.8% for the gmo fed pigs. The gmos were actually less. The non gmo pigs also had more heart and liver malfunctions. Another omission by you. Does all this mean that gmos are safer than non gmos, no don’t be silly. It means that it was a very poorly designed study with to few numbers to actually decide anything.
As far as the others, gmos are already feeding the world. Furthermore, I don’t remember the 90% remark as well. What you have proved here is that you confirmed you lie. Still don’t quite know why though.
I apologize, I said it was off of the top of my head and it was the only other pro-Gmo troll on this site that said that lie about irrigation. Your completely wrong about the study I’m referring to I assume you are thinking of a different study. I have a farm to run and can’t spend my whole day on the phone responding to your lies that Gmo have “zero negatives” I hope you find peace and cease the need to argue with strangers on the web.
Sorry, I don’t seem to have much trouble handling business, it is called multitasking, but I do understand your limitation — mentally that is. I will recant as gmos have negatives for insects, weeds, and hunger, as well as for you organic liars like yourself. I wish you well and hope that some day you will be able to see the light.
Maybe you would be better educated and more successful if you didn’t argue mindlessly with farmers on the net. And had your facts straight
Not missed a fact yet, and you know nothing of how things work here in the real breadbasket of america. You should actually get out and see the world, because you have a lot to learn my friend.
Hey Robs,
I hate it when people miss the facts on a debate. Whats your opinion on GMO’s again? You are against them correct?
The truth speaks for itself, and they have been proven safe beyond all doubt.
Truth and hunger Bob. We admire your zeal!!
“negatives for insects, weeds and hunger” Beautiful Bob, just beautiful. You’re not just the ultimate gentleman-troll, you’re a poet. A poet Bob.
Except perhaps because you seem to be unaware that nature; yes that fuzzy thing that keeps you alive, has no political agendas, no budget limitations or time constraints and it will, as it always has (and is already doing) outsmart your poetic technology every time and then all you’re really accomplishing is releasing vast amounts of poison and experimenting with things you know nothing about and fucking that fuzzy thing we all need to survive for everyone. Now is that fair?
What’s going to happen? The earth will survive us and start again. Those dumbasses who shot themselves in the foot (and then in the head) trying to be bad news for insects and weeds, ahh and of course the hunger, cause who could’t go for a nice GMO, Glyphosate sandwich right now, Am I right?
You really need to get in touch with reality. We all have an expiration date including the Earth. Yes it will be long after we are gone, but it still has one. No one ever said that the current gmos would last forever. They are to give us time until the next greatest thing comes along. As for the rest of your sci-fi you need to separate the real from your twisted make believe voodo.
Can’t wait for that next best thing Bob, I hope it puts the world’s food supply into the hands of just one person, Bob, I really do. And that that person gets to accumulate a gazillion, billion dollars, Bob and buy out all the governments of all the world and then sell crap to everyone, that makes them sick and die, for you know who needs hungry people and that person then makes another gazillion while polluting the soil and water and then comes up with the next big thing to produce more crap without them…ahhh but you’re right I must get back to reality. So much less interesting. Damn Bob, you keep me real!
Hey Robo toes,
Ive had some uncomfortable flatulence here lately. My friends said it was the GMO corn Ive been eating. What do you think about it ?
Sincerely,
Rumbly Belly
Most likely comes from organic thoughts instead.
No one even slightly aware of the issue would say gmos have zero negatives and not be telling a lie.
Wow a cute little picture proves so much doesn’t it. You are so blinded by the lies that you cant see the truth. Thats fine eat organic and leave the rest of us alone.
Why don’t you take your own advice and allow us to regulate gmo as polls routinely show we are the majority. You have the right to grow your poison on your land but it is a violation of our right to not have it contaminate our fields. That is where your freedom impacts others freedom. Keep it enclosed and I would be ok with it.
Majority? May I remind you of Oregon and Washington, and lets know forget California and Colorado (the two states where it should have been a slam dunk for labeling).
As far as your picture I doubt seriously if you know what he believes about me. So you are once again lying. My only question to you is why? It is a shame that your arguments are so poor that you continually use lies.
The majority does not usually win elections in a land of corporate control, you think those elections would have been the same without the influence of multimillions of dollars to lie and buy votes. You are the lier calling the kettle black, I have yet to hear one reasonable argument from you based on facts. I know David and he is definitely talking about you and anyone who claims a technology which you can’t even comprehend is safe.
The majority of the people that vote did win these elections and they said NO. So either “YOUR” majority didn’t care enough to vote or some other magical think happened. I am sure you will come up with some lie for it. As far as gmos are concerned, they really aren’t that hard to figure out and they are one of the most studied items in history, and all except for your few that are trying to make a name for themselves by putting out false evidence proclaim them safe.
Some magical thing like millions of dollars in PAC spending to lie and manipulate the vote
You mean educate the people so they can see the lies you put out.
Who spends over 8 million per county election to tell the truth…
I am sure you are going to say Monsanto, it is a shame it takes so much money to counter the lies told by you and others. Did you ever stop to think what we could do with all the resources that are wasted on both sides? Why not put your energies towards a real cause? Food distribution, cancer the list is never ending. For you to spread useless lies about something is ridiculous and wasteful. Open your eyes and quit being the problem.
It was Monsanto and Dow; however, paying for what they did to the people of Anniston Alabama where they were convicted of a range of crimes including ‘outrage’ for knowingly poisoning the town and covering it up for decades was a waste of far more resources. Not to diminish your work but I produce food on thousands of acres and work with others around the world to actually address the issue of food security not just make unsubstantiated claims that gmo feed the world when you know they don’t even feed all of the us. I don’t enjoy arguing, as you will never change my mind and I will never change yours. I hope you have a great day and find peace.
Now you are trying to play the history card? I guess that is a good thing since you are losing in the present. A lot of people and companies have done things wrong in the past, that doesn’t mean they are still doing things that way. Especially when those people that did those things are long gone.
I believe they were convicted less than 15 years ago hardly ancient history. You should have learned by now that those who don’t understand history are doomed to repeat it. I would say you are the one who is losing in the present. You are boring as you never add anything to these conversations.
The truth is never boring, but your lies are.
You never contribute anything of substance just call everyone lier not the best way to bring anyone to your side if that is your goal. You seem to just be really lonely and feel the need to whine online.
You are the one that only points to one obscure study that has been discredited as junk science. You are also the whiner, because you are happy with the real findings that have lead to the approval of gmos and their consumption by billions of people all over the world each day.
Hey Robes,
Are you making a reference to the awesome movie True Lies ?
Do you remember how great of an Arnold movie that was? Its my favorite too.
Long time since I seen it.
Hi Ruby Dee,
I applied to Monsanto online. They had some job openings. Can you put in a good word and get my resume to the top of the list? My education is just public high school, and my work experience is somewhat limited. I almost invented the Piano neck tie, but unfortunately i couldnt gather the fabrics and materials to get one started. Some years later, it was invented by someone else. Since then Ive retired, but due to budget cuts in my family’s household, and the basement being partitioned off, Ive decided its time to move out on my own.
LOL, glad to see you have plenty of time to waste. You must really be worried that the facts are making inroads in your perfect little world of imagination.
You know the pBS ran that GMO’s will save the earth the night before the vote. With out a rebuttal side, they violated a bunch of election laws. But that’s how the US Just-Us system works. Don’t label (NO to I-522) had 23 million with 50 bucks from the public. Labeling (YES to I-522) about 6 million and close to half coming from the public. I’d say there were lots of barrels of GMO lard getting passed around.
BTW I’m crushed you don’t like those charts I worked on. I spent 100’s of hours trying to get them from Government sites. In fact a couple days after being published in the Examiner they were popping up all over the world. They were even discussed in the new documentary BOUGHT. The Dr. even said it was the scariest thing he ever seen in his whole medical career. He said it doesn’t prove cause, which it doesn’t, But by Pearson’s 0 meaning nothing, .5 shows correlation, and with the exception of a couple being in the high .8’s, and a couple being a hair shy of 1.0, Hey! GONG!!
I think your right, go with the mongolian gerbil! Ellen be proud of you.
Again with the gerbil? Obviously, one must take all of your comments as a joke. PBS sounds like they did the correct thing by showing documentaries and not airing the fiction.
I know what we could do with that money Bob, label the product!! Wouldn’t that be great, end of discussion; no lies just transparent product labelling. Then we’d know what the market thinks of it for sure.
Why, you already have organic and non gmo, are you not smart enough to figure out the rest? Go get an adult to explain it to you. By the way answer me one question, why is it ok for a ruby red grapefruit to be labeled organic? It is anything but organic, so what is the use of a label if it is wrong?
Bob, that’s what I admire about you, the arrow like focus, back to the ruby red … hmm tough call. I think its conspiratorial and certainly up there with manipulating genes left and right and making oodles of money playing the system to produce a handful of poisonous commodities through influence purchasing, legal bullying and the likes, but I don’t know. The ruby red is the stuff of nightmares for me Bob, please not to mention again.
Anyway back to the labels. My suggestion would be: don’t invest in divesting those lying organic bastards of their labels Bob, don’t do it. Just slap on some flashy labels on GMO’s that read: New and Improved Unnatural Selection Product. Try our GMO, Glyphosate enriched, Yum Yum Formulae!! and if people don’t bite with that, then it’s their loss Bob. Their loss.
Also yes. I think adult supervision IS needed to read labels now-a-days. You know there is fucking soy in everything Bob. Canned tunna has soy!! Deciphering it requires adults, you’re so right.
Hey Robskies,
I miss Joan Rivers as well. I know you were just as big of a fan as I was.
She was pretty cool.
Hey Roobert
Are watching the Oscars next year? I think they were fabulous this year. Let me know you thoughts on them. Thanks!!
Don’t really care about them either.
Hey Robotron,
I get the feeling you watch them, and your just being shy. But I understand your reluctance to watch them, they are afterall, not quite for equality just yet. It reminds me of a time I went fishing, and caught three fish.
Warm regards,
Van de Kamp
May I remind you of all the millions spent to fight labeling, only 50 bucks came from the public. Even though they spent 4 to 1 against labeling, the public shelled out close to 3 million bucks for labeling! Was that you, the only GMO piss boy in WA??
Touchy touchy aren’t we. Where do you think these companies get their money from? From public sales. So yes the public did support it with dollars and especially with votes!
LOL I thought that one got censored. You know right after the votes were not even all counted Washington’s Atty Gen filed a law suite against GMA. Just after that was when we found out some hot shot from GMA was heading up the pro labeling.
Hey Bobbie I found your mommy!!
http://www.mold-survivor.com/symptoms.html
You don’t share genes with a slime mold, but ewe were cross contaminated with a toxic fungus. Mycotoxicosis Sapien!!
If GMO’s are so great you should want everyone on earth to know your products. But alas, just like on DISQUS, you, and they have something to hide.
Tell that to the hungry billions that are depending on gmos daily.
Depending?-or trick into?–please get it right–if it is so good–WHY NOT LABEL IT?
For a lot of people in this world they are happy if they get anything. They weren’t born whining with a silver spoon in their mouth like your were. As far as labels, I think they should. Label anything you wish non-gmo, but why make people that don’t want the label pay for it? Of course the non gmo label is just as fake as the organic label is right now.
fake?—like in FAKE FOOD?
I don’t know you tell me. Ruby Red Grapefruits can be sold as organic. The hybrid was created using atomic radiation. Does that sound good to you? How about Ben & Jerry’s ice cream labeled non gmo? Sounds nice until you actually research it and see the cows that produce the milk are fed gmos. This is because milk is considered exempt from the gmo discussion. So what does your precise label actually prove? Not much.
look—first of all—i don’t eat seedless anything or ruby red grapefruit or ice cream –i’m a vegan for 45 years before it was cool to be a vegan–so all your comments don’t apply to me–second -i’m asking people to go out and label the food when no one is looking–you can get stickers from the dollar store and draw a skull on it and write gmo and we can win this war that we are fighting for our children future–you can help us too robert–come back to humanity
I’m for humanity, and they want to eat! In order to do it they need food, and farmers need gmos in order to produce it. Why don’t you step over into reality and realize there is zero negatives to gmos.
NOBODY CARES ABOUT THE POOR–OK–GROW UP—ALL YOUR CORPORATION CARES ABOUT IS —MONEY!–DID I SAY YOUR CORPORATION–HMM–TROLL !
Actually my company is a corporation, a private one. You are correct my customers due want to be paid for what they produce, but you can make money and help people at the same time.
You don’t care about helping people if you did-you would shut up:)
Shut up and let your lies take food from them? Never.
Hey Bob,
Its me again. I await your reply
Sincerely
Robert
Hi groupie. Glad to see you have to go such lengths to discredit me.
Feel free to address me as El Conquistador. Would you like to elaborate as to what lengths your referring to? I dont recall trying to discredit you over the last three years.
No need. It’s quite clear you’re a troll with a salary and a bunch of “talking points.”
Yes another cheap tactic to try and keep people from the truth, but you are losing.
Can I be a groupie to. Your the sharpest troll on the net.
BTW Do you think Joan Rivers was killed for calling Mike a Tranny??
Hungry billions don’t eat GMO soy, they eat the cultural staples of their land, a lot of that land has been taken or polluted by large scale GMO commodities (see India and Argentina)… Enough food is produced for everyone, 30% to 50% of it is wasted. What we need is better distribution and smaller scale local farming of enough variety and cleanliness to provide nutrition; not rubbish foods made from dubious ingredients. You know nothing…
Over a billion people in China and they are the worlds largest importer of gmo soybeans. Gmos have provided over three trillion meals all without issues. Sorry you can’t get your facts right.
From Reuters: “China’s actions against GMO contamination have been going on since at least the middle of 2013 but for a while seemed to be dismissed in the US as a trade glitch even though it was apparent that Chinese attitudes against GMOs werehardening.
But the mounting losses are now hitting home.”
Gee little one, they buy more of our gmo soybeans than anyone else in the world. For the corn, we really don’t export very much as most is used domestically, and even then China buys very little to start with, but for the record they did just reopen their markets to DDGs. The reason crop prices are going down is thanks to two years of record yields led by ninety percent planting of gmos. Obviously, you haven’t had your farm economics class yet.
Nice use of “little” to beLITTLE your opponent. Plus, it also sounds like I have a small Johnson…very crafty. You’re such a pro!! Anyway it’s all in good fun. The Chinese send America led painted toys and Monsanto sends them GMO’s, I kind of get it now. Lovely. Learning so much from you Bob…
Monsanto sends them nothing as they do not buy or export grain.
They just sell the seeds and the chemicals to “enrich” the crops with all those “nutrients” so someone else can produce and send to China…that’s even better. Woow. Just brilliant. Thanks for clarifying Bob.
Without them we would have nothing to sell, nor enough for our use either.
You’re loosing Bob, now your just answering unintelligible gibberish. Come back Bob. Keep it together!
LOL, you must be sinking back into your fantasyland.
There are definitely issues here:
China has suspended the import
approval process for a genetically modified soybean variety,citing “low public acceptance” of GMO food, according to two people familiar with the matter.
“Previously if the MoA decided not to approve a new product,it would be because of not enough data,” said an executive with an industry association, who did not want to be
named because of the sensitivity of the issue.
“But this year, the reason is because they are considering social acceptance problems.”
GMO corn variety grown in the United States, Syngenta’s MIR162, has not been approved for import by China, causing Beijing to turn away almost 1 million tonnes of U.S. corn cargoes since November last year.
Analysts have linked the rejection to China’s large domesticcorn supplies, but GMO food is also struggling to win over public opinion after a series of media reports in recent years
alleging purported health risks.
China is definitely on their own schedule. Sometimes they do things I believe just to affect our markets. The MIR162 got approval earlier this year and China started buying our ddgs once again. It has made the domestic price rise considerably. It took them five years to approve it. Dow submitted their enlist soybean for approval last year. It is expected to be approved this summer. Dow is not releasing the enlist soybeans until China has approved them in order not to have a repeat of the ddgs.
Safety?it damage the liver–it been proven
Oh really how where strange how it isn’t in print. LOL, more lies.
Nope. Wrong. They are banned and regulated in more and more places everyday. They will go, or at least they will not be allowed to take over everyhting.
Strange how we just keep growing them and they keep disappearing then isn’t it.
it’s contamination. non-gmo famers don’t want that monsatan garbage mixed w/ their real food.
Now you wish to have communism not letting people grow what they wish on their own land? I see you want freedom for yourself, but for no one else.
What the people wish is to know what’s real food and what is frankenfood
You mean like you organic ruby red grapefruit? LOL, you don’t speak for the people, only for yourself. The people of California, Washington, Oregon, and especially Colorado have spoken and they say NO to labeling.
Hey Rob.
Personally Im a fan of white grapefruits over the ruby red. What are your thoughts on the news that Hernandez DNA matched cigarette butt at crime scene?
Don’t really care.
Ahh, your smarter than I anticipated. I believed I could change the topic to sports news and make you lose your train of thought. Way to stay on the subject, which is the debate on your favorite grapefruit. The guys and myself will probably take a few more days to cosider your likely choice, and we will inform you of our verdict then. In the meantime, enjoy an episode of Ellen. Whats your favorite show? We should submit an idea for one, called “Robert’s favorite grapefruit, red or white? You decide.” Considering your fanfare in the comments section, Id say networks would pick it up before we finish the pitch on the pilot.
How about Ellen’s favorite designer gene? Bobby Botkins could be host. There first one could be crossing a gerbil with a franken fish. Create a bigger, slimy gerbil for those that just can’t handle a guinea pig.
I bet he likes San Francisco Grapefruits.
What does Monsanto have against labeling GMO laden food with a GMO label. Do you believe that only certain ingredients and processes should be labeled?
I believe that we have way to much red tape and that costs time and money. Only things that serve a health purpose should be on a label. Calories, fat, allergens are all good examples, but there is no scientific reason for the gmo label. It would only cause confusion with the average person. I have no problem at all with a voluntary non gmo label.
I didn’t say I did or did not have any problems with the ruby red grapefruits being organic.
Then the question do you?
“there is no scientific reason for the gmo label.” The main reason for any information to be placed on a label is for people to gain information about the product. This should be a right of consumers. I am curious as to why you would feel that ” It would only cause confusion with the average person.” Having worked in grocery for years I found that many consumers were always reading labels to determine what was in the product. Consumers today are much more enlightened about their food choices.
You are wrong sir, labels aren’t to gain any amount of information that might be wanted, they are to supply information that is NEEDED for health reasons. Consumers and competitors may want to know cokes secret formula, but you will never find it on a label. There is all kind of information consumers want to know and think they have the right to know, but if it doesn’t affect their health then the government has correctly determined that companies have the right to keep things private. Whether you like it or not, and whether you agree with it or not there are zero studies that have stood up to the standards that show gmos are a threat to human health. To label it would mean the government might leave open the possibility that gmos pose a health risk, and that simply isn’t the case. As far as my personal opinion on labels, I do not oppose things being labeled non gmo. I am thankful for the label as it has allowed me to quit using things like smart balance. I do not blame them for profiting off of the illogical fears of others, I simply do not wish to be a part of it. With the non gmo label though, issues like the additional cost of labeling no longer matter, because if there is any it will be passed on only to the people that wanted the label, and if there isn’t any additional cost then everyone wins.
There is a big difference between having a company’s secret formula and knowing WHICH ingredients are in the package. There is already a list of ingredients on packaging- some with health related information and some with other non-health. I can’t imagine for a minute that anyone would believe that labelling a product with GMO information is revealing a secret formula.
Also it would be a stretch to assume that GMO processed foods have no health consequences.
Regardless, the government has already confirmed that GMO’s in food is a valid health concern. This is why they accepted GMO information to be included in the bar codes on food packaging.
A package of hamburger lists beef as the ingredient, it doesn’t say what kind of animal it was, it could have been angus, Hereford, or any other breed some might want to know this information, but it is unavailable because beef is beef and it very well could be a mixture of many different animals. A can of corn has corn in the ingredients. Here again it could come from both gmos and non gmos as most places don’t segregate these things, because there is no reason too.
But the ones I get do say grass fed NO GMO’s, no whore moans, and no antibiotics. Lots of times hamburger is just an old holstein that finally couldn’t earn there feed. I miss seeing Jersey’s and Guernseys like they was 50 years ago. Better butter for shore!
Why so vulgar? First gerbils no whores? If you wish to discussion the topics then fine, but try and be civil. Otherwise you only harm your cause not mine.
I didn’t say any thing about gerbils or whores? Oh I see, I left a space, whoremoans. is that better?
Either you spelling or your sense of humor matches your iq, very low.
Well shuckens, you found me out. For some reason the 7th grade didn’t work for my deferment. Well the government doesn’t care, they’ll take smart and dumb to kill innocent human beings.
I think part of the difficulty you are having understanding the concerns voiced by many posters here is that what you are discussing is the current status quo. Just because labelling has been done a certain way in the past doesn’t mean that it will always be done that way. It is constantly changing and improving. The way we live today is quite different than we lived 50 years ago. Seat belts and air bags are now mandatory. This has saved many lives.
Consumers today demand many more safeguards than they used to and citizens are more able to have access to information to discuss changes to government policy.
This may be what you are missing here- Posters here are informed. They know their rights and they are armed with scientific research to back up their concerns.
I have to disagree. While things are totally different today, it is also full of new dangers like social media. I also agree that most on here are informed, but with misinformation. I blame companies like Monsanto and the rest for this problem. They did an excellent job of educating the farmer on the safety and the benefits of gmos. They did a terrible job of educating the public. They underestimated the power of social media and the willingness of people like Mike Adams to make a fortune off of people’s fears. Funny how it is much easier for people to believe gossip than the truth. Now they are playing catchup, which s hard to do, but n the end I do believe the truth will win out.
Also, as far as giving into peoples demands, that is mob rule, which again we don’t have. The founding fathers never intended for that and were scared enough of it that they set up the electoral college to elect the president.
Are you saying that the social media is an environmental danger?
Again I believe your are giving no validity to ANY anti GMO research or concerns?
Well I guess I will have to say that if mob rule succeeded in changing the standards to include air bags and seat belts in vehicles ( which most certainly saved my life) then I am all for “mob rule” – as you say.
I think social media is out of control and very dangerous. What do you call it when a teenager gets bullied using Facebook bad enough to commit suicide?
As far as mob rule and air bags? I don’t recall many protests and petitions to make them mandatory.
I do have a request. You did not answer my question on why you seem fine with a ruby red grapefruit being labeled organic? If labels are so important than why not correct ones?
I think we were discussing environmental danger. I fail to see the relevancy.
I think you need to do more research on vehicle safety- in particular pay attention to Ralph Nader’s crusade and his large support from the populous that brought about sweeping changes in vehicle safety design.
In regards to your comment about red grapefruit being labeled organic- I did respond but maybe it didn’t go through.
My response is simple: I don’t know what they are and I don’t eat grapefruit.
As far as environmental danger no, just danger to the truth.
The ruby red Grapefruit is one of about three thousand different varieties of food that was created using mutation breeding. The process uses radiation or chemicals to scramble the DNA and produce a new plant. Sounds scary doesn’t it. These foods can be labeled as organic, even scarier isn’t it. Even worse this started in the 1930s, later they even used atomic radiation. Where was the outcry? How about the coverup? We have changed our food for the last ten thousand years, gmos is just the latest way.
Outcry in the 1930s?
Yes where was it? Why wasn’t there one when the food was changed so radically?
Fluoride, Vaccines, chemtrails, and GMO foods. I’ll bet even though it’s a fact chemical imbalance is the cause for the escalation with all this psychological issues, GMO’s and all the other chemicals including the glyphosate rain will be the answer.
You kind of remind me of 5 deferment Dick. How many loved ones have you lost yet with all these funky new illnesses that have sprang up in the last 20 some years? I’ve lost a parent, and a best friend who’s guts went like a bug on BT Toxin. I had 2 dogs die a slow miserable death at a young age from the ethoxyquin Monsatan had proven safe and effective for animal feeds. I’ve been wise to you guys since the 80″s.
In all honest you probably bored them all to death. About like you are most of us.
“They did an excellent job of educating the farmer on the safety and the
benefits of gmos. They did a terrible job of educating the public.”
Why do you say that?
The farmers are the customer so it was a no brainer to educate them and get them on board. They never considered educating the public, the ultimate end user, because they didn’t see the need. The backlash against business and government, or as I stated the rise of social media. They are just now starting with the websites answering questions and ads. The first gmos saw no tangible benefits for consumers, they were all for the farmer. Now with the newer ones, consumers can start seeing them as well.
It definitely seems that they were either unaware of the need to educate or possibly they didn’t care about the end user. However, I am sure that Monsanto did not divulge any negative findings to the farmers since they were trying to build their business.
Consumers mostly see cost and health benefit as main priorities. Any message that goes out to the consumer must have both positive and negative research results. No business with any financial savvy would divulge any negative findings so it must be up to the government to delve deeper into the possible side effects.
The negatives for the farmer was signing a contract where they agreed not to save seed for planting, and to pay a tech fee for the seed.
As far as you comment on divulging the research, do you really think after the tobacco incidents that a company is going to withhold information? The government also doesn’t perform research on products as they only review it. This isn’t special for our industry.
Scientific analysis can easily be done on the ingredients in a bottle of Coke. A secret formula can still remain a secret formula even after the ingredients are divulged. If there is any suspicion that an ingredient is unsafe or even whether the process is unsafe then consumers have the right to this information.
Also many competing companies have changed their practices in regards to government legislation and they still remain competitive and profitable since all of the companies across the board must adopt the same environmental improvements.
Plus I think the comment ” I do not blame them for profiting off of the illogical fears of others” is quite offensive to many here who have spent many hours pouring over well researched scientific data.
John, A big AMEN to that!
I agree. Too much red tape for organics. We need to label the playing field. Either GMO and chemical ladden agriculture also adhere to certification and labelling or organic producers must get the same preferential treatment (even to the extent of having the US government use its clout to bully governments into adopting them) that GMOs are afforder.
If people could be taken at their word then there wouldn’t be so much red tape, but people want the yields of non organic at the organic price, so the take advantage of saps like you. The oversight is there to protect you and your fears.
Again I keep having to agree with you!! If people could be taken at their word we wouldn’t need to label GMO’s and try and find out what the hell you are applying to our food just to make money; which is why companies like the one you work for REQUIRE oversight and there needs to be a stop to revolving doors; company officers moving into government oversight and back.
About calling me a Sap and a Child, your getting frustrated, man. Chill…No one is calling you notin’
Aww it must be about your nap time you are getting grumpy. If you would actually go and see real farming operations you would see just how much oversight and regulations we have. Most make little to no sense, because they were made by someone like you that thinks they know. Until you grow up you will remain a child.
Jajaja… I am so amused by your responses. It is about my nap time, actually and I can, because I am not being paid to do this, unlike you. The most amusing thing is that your company probably doesn’t allow you to call me all the things you’d like to call me (they probably don’t want to soil the good reputation of GMO’s with unseemly language), so you have to resort to ask me to grow up…jajaja
Since I open my own company I call you a D u m b a s s b I t c h If I want, but I would never do that to a child like you.
Jajajajajaja…I keep wanting to go take that nap Bob, but your replies are just golden. Pretty soon I am going to give you the last word and I know you’ll be happy. That’s how I roll. I keep telling you I AM a child. Thanks for noticing, again well spotted.
By the way…I know enough about food and agriculture to know what I buy and I produce quite a bit myself; so no worries and no fears. It is you and your company who are afraid to disclose your sketchy science and the possible concerns about the technology behind the seeds and the agrochemicals. I loose nothing, I eat quite well; you guys could loose billions of dollars. Now that is fear!
That’s why that Farm Bill needs to get fixed for real food to be subsidised instead of the multi- national franken food companies.
Jajaja…resort to the communism card. That is so desperate and quaint!!
No that is you, I think people should be free to plant what they want with even less restrictions on them.
“I know you are but what am I”… “no that is you” what kind of response is that? Look at your talking points dude. There must be something there to respond.
I agree, we should all be free to cultivate anything we want without being polluted by cross pollination from potentially hazardous plants and have clean water and soil that has no traces of poisonous substances that are now appearing in breast milk and urine samples in most of the population.
The way I see it; it’s like music. If you can play it just for yourself, great! Put on headphones and listen to whatever suits you. But if for some reason everyone else has to hear your music, then you are infringing on everyone else’s right to silence.
GMOs and agrochemicals do not keep to themselves, but spread out like a boombox. It is they who infringe on our freeedom of choice not the other way around. But nice attempt to spin GMO Bob.
Whatever you wish to think, it is very simple the majority likes to eat and we use proven ways to go about it. Go listen to your obscure studies and whine all you wish.
Thanks Bob for allowing me to think what I wish. You’re as generous as your company; you are also “Spot-On” on how “the majority like to eat,” I guess I never really though about that. Also, nice use of key words like “obsure” to discredit unnamed studies.
I don’t recall having mentioned any for you to be so certain about how obscure they are, but hey that’s how you roll; you’ve researched an entire life and need to know nothing more in order to discredit any study, so why mention them to you.
Also not whine, wine. I am laying on a hamac sipping wine. No whining on my end. I am writing to you because it amuses me. You on the other hand are on the clock and have to put up with me and make sure you get your talking points and your key words and concepts across and you’re doing a nice job, I must say.
you have added nothing but childish humor and whining to this whole conversation. No wonder things like labeling get defeated ever time they are put to a vote.
I’m sorry I’ve added nothing to your exhaustive research Bob.
You are sorry I will give you that.
So gracious of you to concede you are the true gentleman-troll.
Why thank you child.
Don’t mention it Bob. “It’s understanding that makes it possible for people like us tolerate a person like yourself.”