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  1. blank Tont Davies says:

    Your scientific logic and argument is sooooo bad it is a joke. Are you 4 years old or completely stupid

    1. blank nick quinlan says:

      Yes, you are a total joke, a fraud, and a liar. No one believes the BS you just typed in this thread. It is YOU that REALLY looks STUPID
      Go away, Monsanto troll.

  2. blank Tont Davies says:

    Let me correct your readers on the facts since you seem to ignore them.
    The refuge is a limited amount of non Bt plants that allow wild type insects to survive and grow – they are not affected by the surrounding corn. Crosspollination is not a factor. Most corn actually pollinates itself – the pollen can move but most less than 660 ft. the insects feed on the leaves etc not the pollen. Wild type insects survive and grow better than the insects that have become tolerant to the Bt. The insect population has a very rare numbers of mutants that can resistant anything some resistant Bt, some resistant to a chemical insecticide, some resistant rotation with soy (its complicated). When you put pressure on the insects with e.g. Bt most die but that tiny fraction maybe I in 10000000000000 survive and will eventually become the predominant insects – except scientists have seen that the mutant forms don’t compete well with wild type insects and when they interbreed with the wild type they lose their resistance to Bt. So having a small fraction of refuge plants without Bt in a field allows the wild types to be there in much greater numbers than the rare natural mutants and stops the mutants from being a problem. The farmers were required to follow planting refuge and that was one reason seed cos required them to sign an agreement – the EPA required Monsanto and others to have a grower agreement. But not all growers follow the recommendations .
    Would you like Monsanto to sue them ! I guess you would so you could complain. No insecticide sprays (organic or conventional) are even required to do this but they should. So what seed cos did was introduce bags of seed with non-Bt seed mixed in (refuge in the bag) and then no need to plant separate fields. This will eventually solve the issue make farmer’s, Seed cos and EPA lives easier.
    But then activists like you will have to think up some other thing to complain about but that wouldn’t be a problem because you just make a lot of this up any case.

  3. blank Tont Davies says:

    I also like the terminator gene mention – classic ignorant fool write up – terminator genes were never developed by Monsanto and never in development but the web has been full of terminator seed or genes that are used as slogans. You haven’t really got a clue what you are writing out.
    BTW if Bt crops have failed then what are they still used on most of the corn acres and even growing in Brazil etc. Listing the Wall Street Journal and another website as a reliable source is also another bad practice you follow. How is a liberal arts educated journalist qualified to be able to expound of scientific studies?
    At least quote scientists – but then again that wouldn’t be natural would it. We might as well have the clergy do the scientific research from now on.

  4. blank Tont Davies says:

    You also forgot to mention that there are three more agencies at the WHO who say glyphosate is not a carcinogen and the classification that was given includes barber shops, coffee, and pickled veggies. The WHO group studied it for 4 hours at a conference and didn’t consider all data, while the German government study that showed it is not a carcinogen studied it for 4 years and look at all data.
    A technical aspect of tox studies is if something is toxic it should increase in toxicity as the dose increases – for example if a little alcohol is bad for you more should also be bad for you. In some isolated badly run studies – there was sign of carcinogenicity with one low does but nothing at higher levels – to a skilled toxicologist this means the small affect at low does is a false reading.
    Also if you take natural ingredients in natural organic food and any other food and concentrate them up to very high levels and feed them to toxin sensitive rats virtually everything is toxic – it is a matter of dose.
    Glyphosate is less toxic than table salt in these studies. The highest Glyphosate residue found in fields or food is 1000x lower than the level that could affect humans so dose matters. You might as well ban Dove soap as a possible carcinogen as it will destroy human cell sin culture far quicker than glyphosate but the assay has no meaning since many perfectly harmless things will affect human cells in culture.

  5. blank Tont Davies says:

    Can you explain this statement : “When these Bt resistant superbugs take over and no antibiotic can touch them”

    what has antibiotics got to do with Bt ?

  6. blank Motherearth says:

    Let’s see…Russia (pop. 146,270,033), Austria (pop. 8,572,895), Bulgaria (pop. 7,205,677), GERMANY (pop. 80,767,463), Greece (pop. 11,000,000), Hungary (pop. 9,877,000), Ireland (pop. 6,197,100),Japan (pop. 125,000,000), Luxemburg (pop.549,680), Madeira (pop.267,785), New Zealand (pop. 4,519,000), Peru (pop. 7,605,742), S. Australia (pop. 1,682,600), France (pop. 65,430,000), Switzerland (pop. 8,100,000) Bavaria (pop. 12,423,000) and China (1,367,820,000) ALL have outright BANNED GMOs…that’s 1,863,286,875 people who do NOT eat them. Meanwhile, in the US (pop. 324,646,348) we are forced to eat GMOs whether we like it or not, but the tide is turning as more and more demand for ORGANIC crops (you can’t deny that there is a big surge in organics) will turn farmers away from your merry-go-round of poisons and back to organic (or as I like to put it…truly conventional farming) without the use of harmful chemicals simply because there is high demand and the use of terminator seeds has scared farmers away from your corporate poison peddlers.

  7. The plan is that they DON’T survive. Agenda 21 is all about destroying all family farms and all non-GMO food. The only “food” under their system will be GMO full of toxins- except for the elite, of course. THEY will have non GMO food grown from hierloom seeds. That is why they are doing everything they can to destroy independent farmers as fast as possible under whatever pretext they can come up with.

    After all, if you control the food you control the people. “Obey us or starve”. Also see State Department Memorandum 200, signed by then Secretary of State Henry Kissinger in Dec, 1974 for more insights into the plan.

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