Our words, voice, and opinions are our birth right and are protected. Free speech is not a luxury and it is certainly not handed down to us from a government. In Australia, and ramping up quickly in the United States, it seems some speech is more freeย than others. A press release onย January 27th from long time expert and vaccine educator Dr. Sherri Tenpenny announced that she has cancelled speaking appearancesย scheduled for Brisbane, Sydney, Adelaide, Melbourne, and Gold Coast. The reason was due to pro-vaccine extremists calling for violence and making bomb threats against venue owners and their families in some cities originally scheduled for the healthy living seminars.
Fellow vaccine lecturer Stephanie Messenger, who jointly decided to cancel her appearances along with Dr. Tenpenny, states that:
โWe have reached a point where we can no longer guarantee the safety of those attending the seminar. Some people were planning to bring babies. The threats have been persistent. We are not able to insure that the attendees would be safe from harm.โ
Unfortunately, the ones making these threats are still at large.
Mainstream Strikes Out
These actions mirror a certain level of hypocrisy that is a constant undercurrent witnessed from mainstream media regarding people who question vaccines. The blackout of coverage was thought to be prompted by the senior CDC researcher Dr. William Thompsonโs bombshell whistle blower testimonial that vaccines reportedly showed a 340% increase in autism in someย children. The few times the mainstream media does decide to tackle the subject of autism and vaccinations, the coverage is shockingly clueless, one sided, and authoritarian.
It started with CNN health correspondent Elizabeth Cohen arrogantly attempting to end the conversation of unsafe vaccines by talking down to her dwindling audience the words โvaccines are safe. Autism is not a side effect of vaccines. Or to say it another way because some people don’t hear this well, vaccines donโt cause autism.โ Coming shortly after Dr. Thompsonโs public statements, the timing of Cohen’s rhetoric were reckless at best.
But as one example of this being false,ย the Flulaval manufacturerโs insertย states, among other concerning things, the following legal admission and warning, โ8.4 Pediatric Use: Safety and effectiveness of FLULAVAL in pediatric patients have not been established…there have been no controlled trials adequately demonstrating a decrease in influenza disease after vaccination with FLULAVAL.”
This begs the question, what was Cohen talking about?
Next up was Nancy Grace attempting to put to rest the myth that vaccines are not safe. Unfortunately, while covering a story of a vaccine injured child, she too did not do her homework and was shocked to learn on air that individuals cannot sue the vaccine manufacturers if damage occurs. This, a fact that is not told to patients by doctors and nurses before injecting, is known all too well by every family whoโs children have suffered injury and are looking for answers.
This week, it appeared that the third time was going to be the charm as CBS health contributor Dr. Holly Phillips tried her hand at the pro-vaccination talking point game on The Nightly Show. After host Larry Gilmoreโs nice ten minute lead up of second rate jokes about people who question the safety of vaccines, Dr. Phillps said :
โThis isnโt the first time that groups of people have questioned overwhelming amounts of science. Thereโs this little thing called climate change I donโt know if youโve heard of that.โ
I wonder if she talked to Dr. Thompson directly since he and his colleagues write and conduct the โscienceโ and studies that she relies on and quotes from. With more info coming out andย scores of Dr. Thompsonโs documents still being reviewed, it borders on irresponsible for health professionals to instantly strike down the very question of safety from vaccines which at the end of the day remain a private corporationโs product.
The Missing Links
In closing, what is interesting to point out is that in all this talk about vaccines,ย littleย to noย mainstream mediaย coverageย mentions how individuals can take simple, very well documented steps to build up their immune systems. Personal empowerment comes with a lot less side effects. In fact, theย last time I read the โinsertโ there were none. Since we live in a world of hyper connectivity where all movement, phone calls, emails, etc. can be tracked, I look forward to writing the follow up to this article when the ones calling for violence against Dr. Tenpenny, her audience, and pubicย establishmentsย are found shortly.
If vaccines were tested by an unbiased research group and were proven not to be harmful, people like Dr. Sherry wouldn’t have as much of a problem with them. Unfortunately, they are pushed through even though vaccine manufacturers know how dangerous they are.
There are also so many antioxidants and supplements that can do the same and more than any vaccine can do. These supplements prove time and time again that they don’t do any harm, even at mega doses.
No she wouldn’t. Anti vaxers aren’t interested in science and she’s only interested in their money. There is nothing that replaces vaccination, to claim otherwise is to lie.
How typical. Anyone who questions the safety and efficacy of vaccines or the rabid vaccine schedule is called an “anti-vaxxer”, even when that person is a medical doctor trained in *science*. ROFLMAO. Dr. Tenpenny didn’t even set up those events. She was *invited* to speak by individuals and organizations, even though she only went there for vacation. So spare me the bit about her doing engagements just for the money. And btw, what’s wrong with earning a living with your skills and knowledge? I don’t see the pharmaceutical companies giving away all their medicine. I don’t see doctors administering all medicine for free. They most certainly are making a killing off the vaccines. Sometimes quite literally…
“Nothing that replaces vaccination”? Again, LMAO. To claim there is no replacement is what’s the lie here. The incidence of almost all diseases that have vaccines now were already on the decline before their vaccines were introduced. Why is that? It’s called better hygiene and more education about how germs are spread. And nowadays, we’ve learned enough to know that better/stronger immune systems through vitamin/mineral sufficiency in the body can help keep disease at bay, or at least temper a disease if someone gets one. We also have the ability to come up with better treatments to deal with diseases now. So please spare us the propaganda…
The propaganda is coming from you. It was the mortality rates that were already dropping (due to improved treatments) before vaccines, not the incidence. Tenpenny is NOT trained is science. Heck, in Australia she’s not even recognised as a doctor! She’s an Osteopath! Messenger/Bailey is no better. Doctors and Big Pharma make their money off pills, not vaccines. Vaccines are subsidised by the government to make them free and that subsidy only covers the cost of creation. Vitamin and mineral supplements and lifestyle only go so far. The whole medical prevention strategy must include vaccines. They are effective and anyone who says otherwise is blind to the science that is behind them.
You are a fool if you think doctors and pharmaceutical companies aren’t making a killing off vaccines. They sure as heck aren’t handing them out for free in the US. And they aren’t free anywhere else, either. If the government is paying for them, that means YOU as a citizen are paying for them with your taxes. Vaccines are NOT free. *Someone* is *always* paying. They much prefer them to drugs, in fact, because they can’t be sued if something goes wrong–unlike with drugs where they can, in fact, be sued.
Obviously you haven’t a clue about the history of disease if you think only the mortality rate went down and if you think it was because of any treatments. The *incidence* went down because of better hygiene.
Dr. Tenpenny isn’t from Australia, so I don’t give a crap what you think of her degree there. She is recognized as a fully-trained physician here in the States where she practices.
Step out of your bubble and into the real world before commenting again please. I am happy that our taxes are paying for vaccines. They save lives and prevent disease. They ARE free in Australia. And in Australia you CAN be sued. Unlike in the US where you have that stupid no fault system that needs to be removed PDQ so that doctors start paying for their neglect when it comes to vaccine usage. The incidence did NOT drop to any substantive extent – until vaccines were introduced. Improved hygiene only helped with mortality rates.
It doesn’t matter what country is involved. The US has a joke of a classification system when it comes to doctors. Australia has it right. Tenpenny is NOT a doctor. Absolute fact.
They are NOT FREE. YOU are paying for them. What part of that don’t you understand? And in the States, the vaccine manufacturers can NOT be sued for damages. I don’t give a rat’s *** if you think Dr. Tenpenny isn’t a doctor. She IS a doctor, and more so than you’ll ever be, I’m sure. Btw, she is NOT the only physician who questions the rabid vaccine schedule and the vaccine safety and efficacy. It’s just convenient for people like you to pick on one person rather than deal with the fact that there are MANY doctors who question the vaccine industry. She’s not even against all vaccines and if you knew anything about her stance, you would already know that.
Stop lying about vaccines, and stop being so bloody xenophobic. I live in Australia and we have a far better health system than you have. We don’t let underqualified osteopaths practice as doctors and there’s a reason for that. They are not trained where it counts!! If you don’t like paying your taxes, tough. If you don’t like the government subsidising the cost, I dare you to run against them at the next election on that platform. You have the worst first world health system – full stop. Full of holes where panic is allowed to ferment causing bad health decisions from bad health professionals. Every single “doctor” who opposes vaccines should be struck off. But you lot won’t do it because of your stupid extremist capitalism allowing for freedom of doing business over public health. THAT is the problem – and you have no right trying to preach to someone from another country that has a health system that you lot envy. And a lot better educated general public (with some crazed exceptions), hence Tenpenny being forced to cancel her tour here. We pick on her because she tried to spread her lies her, and we shut her off. If any other moron tried the same thing we’d react the same way.
Fact – vaccines are safe in qualified hands and used correctly.
Fact – in a properly administered qualification system, Tenpenny is an osteopath and not a full blown doctor. The US doesn’t have that proper system in place.
Fact – everywhere else in the world, doctors can be sued. The US is an exception, not the rules, and an embarrassing exception at that.
I have NOT lied about vaccines, and you can’t prove me wrong about anything I’ve said. You obviously don’t have anything relevant to say so now you must stoop to accusing me of things I haven’t even done. The only thing valid I’ve seen you write is that the US has a pathetic health-care system. That’s quite accurate, but the rest of your comment is nothing but drivel.
You wouldn’t know drivel if you fell over it. You have no common sense and have forgotten your high school science. That’s obvious. You have lied about vaccines because you don’t understand them and don’t want to understand them. You’re a simplistic little loudmouth who needs gaffa tape across your gob.
Oh, I know drivel alright. It’s coming out of your mouth every time you open it. ๐ You can not prove that *anything* I’ve said is a lie, but of course, your small mind can’t comprehend that you need proof to back up your claims…
You haven’t proven anything yet, except that you are an idiot who doesn’t know what you’re talking about.
Obviously, there’s nothing left for us to say to each other. I’ll leave you to argue with yourself after I finish replying to the rest of your drivel that you’ve written yesterday…
That’s right. Run away like the defeated little coward you are. You know I proved you wrong and (with apologies to Jack Nicholson) YOU CAN’T HANDLE THE TRUTH!
Bye bye!
Only a small-minded person like you would say something like that. I knew you would go fishing and try to bait me into responding again. Apparently you have nothing better to do with your pathetic life…Congratulations.
There is nothing better than telling the truth and calling out liars like you who try to undermine vaccine efficacy and safety. Thank you for the compliment. The small mind belongs to you because you are unable to reason. You are a classic example of the Dunning-Kruger Effect, and that’s a fact.
And if you respond with more drivel, you’ll prove me right.
Hm…did someone of any importance say something to me? No….I didn’t think so. Must have been a pesky insect buzzing around…
You just proved me right and in front of the whole world as well. Congratulations, stupid. You know nothing of importance.
Describe how vaccines can be improperly administered
Given while ill, given when out of date, given when not properly stored, given when medical records say don’t, too many in the one visit – and that’s just off the top of my head. And don’t forget that in the US, those who give vaccines are protected by that stupid no fault system. In Australia they aren’t.
please!
Watch a couple of her videos on YouTube and debunk if you can
I can debunk her without watching the videos thank you.
Question what is the autism rate in Australia and what is the vaccine schedule like
Irrelevant. Vaccines do not cause Autism.
What do you think account for the rising rate of autism. It’s a big deal in the USA. I asked about the Australian vaccine schedule because one study that more vaccines was co or elated with a higher Austin rate. If your schedule is much lighter the the US then maybe you won’t see a link in your country
There is no link anywhere – US or Australia or anywhere else. Rising rates of Autism were and are caused by better diagnostics, not by vaccines. No reliable study has been done to contradict that, only junk studies.
bunk you can hardly go to a play yard with out seeing an autistic kids these days. Parents and small school districts are spending vast amounts of money to take care of these special needs kids. About half of the children with autism are nonverbal. that would make it easy to spot in the general population
They were always there. They were called nerds, or eccentric. Now they are recognised as Autistic. Had the diagnostics been there in the 60’s I would have been diagnosed in 1967, not in 1997 as I ultimately was. Non verbal Autism is caused by sensory overload, and that’s a regression down the already existing Spectrum. Sensory overload comes from all forms on distress through the SIX (not five) senses. And the sixth – instinct – is the most common. Distress has increased in recent years. In the old days, non verbal Autistics were DXed as mentally retarded.
Measles responses well to high levels of vitamin A and C
Prevention is better than cure.
Vaccine weaken the herd.Vaccinate mothers produce fewer anti bodies for their children
http://jid.oxfordjournals.org/content/early/2013/04/29/infdis.jit143.long
The human body need Vitamin A and anyway so weather you are vaccinating or not be sure to get some
vitamin C and even save lives
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6466264
and complication for vitamin are extremely rare
Sounds like the work of that CDC faction of Al-CIA-duh, and there presstitute cheer leading squad. Does any one still believe anything from the media??
Elizabeth Cohen – I rest my case
Dana McCaffrey – I rest my case
Olivia Dahl – I rest my case
Yes, because vaccine$ are so safe and effective they demanded legal protection from the federal government or stop selling vaccines to the US, due to the lawsuits in the early 80’s driving them to bankruptcy.The CONgress awarded legal protection in 1986, giving them the green light to continue to poison, maim and kill the population.
When anybody gets in the way of this criminal activity, their life and that of their families are in jeopardy.
Your problem is that you think in absolutes. For you “safe” needs to be 100% safe and nothing in life is 100% safe. Vaccination, like many things is about balancing risk versus benefits and I tend to find anti vaxers are incapable of doing that. They see vaccines as dangerous yet they let their kids eat, drink, ride bikes, jump on trampolines, travel in cars and go to school which are all activities that result in more deaths of children per year than vaccines.
Balancing RISK versus benefits? There are ZERO benefits in vaccines, only risks – big ones too, to include death by vaccine.
None of the activities you mention are INJECTED directly into the body like vaccines are,causing maiming, destroyed immune systems, neurological disorders, allergies, asthma, autism spectrum disorders, and even death by vaccine.
Why do you pro-vax pushers not want the people to hear the other side of vaccines? You use fear to stimulate pro-vax. The hype and lack of science in ‘vaccinating’ is not the science that has been found regards vaccines. Every parent is entitled to know the dangers of vaccines and not just ‘persuaded’ to vaccinate without any information whatsoever regards the consequences of vaccines.
Everything you say coming from the anti vaccine side is unproven scientific bunk. So there is no other side. I suppose you want to know the dangers of surgery as surgery as well? It’s just as “dangerous”. But you don’t say no do you? The incidence of something going wrong is there for absolutely everything. Some actions are more dangerous and life threatening that others – and disease is the biggest killer in the world. Prevention is better than cure, and that is what vaccines do. If you oppose vaccines you oppose prevention because nothing else can do that job.
LOL. Ever heard of the Hippocratic Oath? One of the main tenants is: “I will take care that they suffer no hurt or damage”. Just think about that while you blather on with your propaganda.
Vaccines do precisely that when used properly and correctly.
Wrong. Not all vaccines do that, even when used “properly”. If they did, then there wouldn’t be a vaccine injury compensation program and there wouldn’t be a vaccine injury reporting website.
Not wrong and the vaccine compensation program only exists in the US and should be shut down. Once it is, the truth will come out about doctors handling vaccines wrong and getting punished for it. The vaccine injury reporting website should be limited to practitioners and fully investigated (at present it’s not). Most reports are actually not vaccine injuries at all.
Yes, you ARE wrong. If there weren’t any injuries, neither one of those things would exist. They exist because there ARE injuries that must be reported and compensated. The VAERS website actually suffers from *under-reporting*, meaning that a very small percentage of injuries and side-effects are even reported because it’s *voluntary* to report them, and if the doctor doesn’t think the problem is related to vaccines (which most don’t) then they won’t report it.
If VAERS was properly scrutinised and reviewed, there would be less reports. The compo for vaccine injury should be coming from the quacks who stuff up the vaccination. That is how injuries occur. No other reason. Your current system is a joke and should be wound up so the real truth comes out and the real injury creators are punished. So don’t use something that’s a joke as proof. It’s not. At present, the majority of VAERS reports are not proven to be vaccine injuries as it hasn’t been reported by a doctor. Parents do NOT know if it’s a vaccine injury or not, no matter who causes it. So I am NOT wrong.
If more doctors would report actual vaccine injuries, VAERS would be even more of an effective tool. As it is, their under-reporting problem is a real problem. Who are YOU to say that those reports of vaccine injury didn’t come from vaccines? Are you in those people’s homes and doctor’s offices? Do you *really* know? NO, you don’t. So stop acting like you do. How presumptuous of you to ASSume that the only vaccine injuries occur because a doctor “did it wrong”. ROFLMAO. It’s not that friggin hard to give a shot. It’s what’s IN the shot that’s the problem, no matter how much you want to blather on about the topic.
You only *think* that you’re not wrong. I beg to differ because nothing you’ve written here touches on the truth. You are so completely brainwashed that it’s sickening–just like so many other pathetic fools who think only vaccines are good for preventing disease and that they don’t hurt people.
I KNOW I’m not wrong, because unlike you I remember was I was taught in science and chemistry at high school. That comment shows how little you understand about the process. It is NOT as simple as “just a jab” and to say otherwise shows your limited intelligence. It’s not what’s in the shot, because it’s a compound. It’s how it’s used. A vaccine is a tool like any other.
ROFLMAO. If you think giving vaccines is rocket science, then you really need your head examined. I’ve watched these people give shots, and it’s really not hard. A monkey could do it. You don’t even have to get the needle in a blood vein. Again, it’s the ingredients IN the vaccines that are causing harm, not to mention the fact that kids are given so many shots at once (and of course, these combinations have NEVER been tested for safety). But of course, a pharmaceutical troll wouldn’t admit that. You wouldn’t happen to be one of those, would you?
You’re an idiot. Never EVER put vaccination over as simple like that. You’re showing your stupidity. The ingredients are irrelevant – it’s a compound. Tell me, do you use salt? Do you drink water? Be honest now.
What does your unintelligent comment have to do with the fact that vaccines contain a cocktail of undesirable chemicals and toxins, and that all these vaccines are given in a short period of time and that those combinations have NEVER been tested? Vaccination IS as simple as what I’ve said. They don’t even have to aim for a blood vein. Leave it to a pharma troll to blame the doctors for the problems instead of the drug; much like biotech does when they blame the farmers for failure instead of their own seeds…
There’s no need to answer (though I know you’ll need to have the last word). I have nothing left to say to your brainwashed intellect (or lack thereof). Don’t expect me to keep coming back here wasting my time on you. You have nothing relevant to say, so I’m just not interested…
That’s right. Run away from the question. Guess what. If you go on ingredients, salt and water (pure water I would point out) are POISON! Don’t believe me? Look up the properties of sodium, chlorine and hydrogen and realise just how much of a fool you are making of yourself. In a compound, salt is safe, water is safe – and so are vaccines by the same principle.
“The reason was due to pro-vaccine extremists calling for violence and making bomb threats against venue owners and their families in some cities originally scheduled for the healthy living seminars.”
That’s what she claims, but you’d be a poor-quality journalist if you didn’t try to verify those claims.
I think you’ll find the reason was actually due to an ANTI-vaccine extremist, an unhinged one, having done those things, as witnessed by many:
http://avwos.thespudd.com/anti-vaxer-frankie-vazquez-threatens-to-bomb-venue-if-tenpenny-gathering-cancelled/
If you have any evidence to the contrary, by all means, provide.
If she was really that concerned about the safety of people, wouldn’t she have gone to the police about the threats?
“A spokesman for NSW Police told SBS that they were not aware of any threats against Ms Tenpenny.”
http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2015/01/29/us-anti-vaccination-campaigner-sherri-tenpenny-cancels-australian-tour
Apparently not in NSW, at least. Queensland evidence unclear.
Just so it’s clear, the bomb threats were made by a rabid anti-vax proponent to try to scare the venues into not cancelling. This person is being investigated by the Australian Federal Police.
I feel that the person who wrote this ‘article’ (poor excuse for an article) doesn’t understand that Australia is another country and we don’t have a constitutionally protected right to free speech. Additionally the action in Australia had nothing to do with free speech and action in Australia has nothing to do with he American Constitution. All in all, the writer is a bit of a numbnut.
Tenpenny is not a ‘vaccine educator’, she is an anti vaccination campaigner. She is not a medical doctor, having no licence to practice, she is not a pediatrician or an immunologist. She is not qualified to speak to the subject of vaccination. She also doesn’t support free speech herself, rapidly removing any pro vax comments off her sites or pages.
The claim that she received threats from pro vaxers is false. Another lie, told by a woman who makes a living out of telling lies. The police confirm there was only one threat, made against one of the venues, by an anti vaxer. The venue confirms the same. No threats were made to anyone by a pro vaxers, at any time.
Stephanie Messenger .. mm, a woman who lies about the death of her son to make money. She has no medical or scientific qualifications at all and her family confirms that her claims about her child are false. She can claim what she likes, but the truth is that the publicity was so negative that no venue would book her and her caravan of lies. The introduction of babies into the conversation is a dishonest attempt to garner public support, it failed in all but the most stalwart of anti vax circles. All venues confirmed that she had misled them as to the nature of the seminars and THAT was their reason for cancelling.
The ‘ones’ making the threats are still at large ? Well, he was spoken to by the police, cried a bit, peed his pants a bit and promised not to do it again. He is an anti vaxer. Frank Vazquez, google him.
I am interested in how you see this as hypocrisy given that it would be hypocritical of Tenpenny to demand ‘freedom of speech’ when she freely admits that she doesn’t support freedom of speech. This is not an issue of “people who question vaccines”, this is an issue of people who spread dangerous misinformation on the subject of vaccination. Normal people who question vaccines are treated with respect, these are not normal people, they are closed minded liars who seek to kill babies.
The claim about Thompson has been totally and irrevocably debunked. I’m unsure of why it is in this argument, seems the writer is just throwing shit at a fan to see if any sticks. Indeed, the writer fails to understand the difference between the media and the people, quite a silly mistake.
In closing, I didn’t bother addressing the rest as the writer really needs to try and stay on topic to the subject he is trying to write about. The grammar and literacy in the article was incredibly poor making it quite difficult to read. But the main point is that the writer is wrong, in all instances in the article. Demonstrably so.
Where in the hell are you getting your disinformation? Dr. Tenpenny is *most certainly* a medical doctor and spent the first decade or so of her career as an emergency medicine doctor. Your whole comment reads like an ad from the pharmaceutical troll manual. Congratulations. Lol.
In Australia, an osteopath is NOT a doctor. Fact. She was not an ER doctor – she just managed the unit and nothing more than that. She doesn’t have the qualifications to actually practice in an ER.
She’s not *from* Australia, first of all. She’s an *American* doctor, and they have just as much training. Secondly, where are you getting your “facts” about her not being an emergency medicine doctor? As it stands, it’s just your word against hers unless you can prove otherwise…l
She managed the ER. She was in ADMIN! My word is sure as heck better than yours.
Your word is NOTHING. Prove your statements or STFU. It’s your word against hers unless you can prove otherwise. She is a fully-trained doctor with just as many years of education as an MD. And please don’t kid yourself into thinking that your words are any better than mine. If you’re not actively treating yourself for cancer without the help of ANY kind of doctor or clinic (as I’m doing), then you’re just talking out your arse, as far as I’m concerned.
Osteopathics is NOT a full doctorate. If you’re treating yourself for cancer without medical help – you’re terminal. From her own website; “From 1986 to 1998, she was a full time Emergency Medicine physician and
the director of the Emergency Department in Findlay, Ohio.” Directors of ER’s are ADMIN! This claim is contradictory because she could not be both. FACT!
ROFLMAO. I assure you that I’m NOT terminal, and that I AM treating myself for cancer, SUCCESSFULLY. Just because that’s not something *you* could do doesn’t mean jack. That just means you aren’t capable or intelligent enough to do so.
You are so out-there that you can’t even understand what you just copy/pasted. What part of “she was a full time Emergency Medicine physician” didn’t you understand? LMAO. You really are a pathetic fool, aren’t you? Looks like you could stand to go back to elementary school….
Again, Dr. Tenpenny is a fully trained physician in the US. She has as much training and qualifications as an MD. This is the wiki entry for osteopaths:
Doctor of Osteopathic Medicine (D.O. or DO) is a professional doctoral degree for physicians and surgeons offered by medical schools in the United States. Holders of the D.O. degree have attained the ability to become licensed as osteopathic physicians who have equivalent rights, privileges, and responsibilities as physicians with a Doctor of Medicine degree (M.D.).[1] D.O. physicians are licensed to practice the full scope of medicine and surgery in 65 countries,[2]
including all 50 states in the US, and make up 7 percent of the total
U.S. physician population. In 2013, there were 87,300 osteopathic
physicians in the United States.
~~~
So, regardless of your uninformed mind, she most certainly IS a doctor of medicine and she practices in the States where osteopaths are recognized as such (not to mention the other 65 countries that recognize osteopaths as full doctors). She did NOT go to Australia to practice medicine. She went there for vacation and was *invited* to speak by the people who live there and want to have valid information about vaccine safety and efficacy.
The health-care system may be crap in this country, but it’s not because of the osteopath program; it’s because the schools and hospitals are corrupted from the pharmaceutical industry.
You can’t be an Emergency Physician with just Osteo qualifications!! She ran the admin!! You can’t do both!! She is not a doctor of medicine and that is a proven fact. She did try to come here to practice medicine through her seminars and that medicine is 100 percent wrong! The “vacation” was a ruse to make sure she got her visa. The instant she started speaking she would have been deported. Stop lying about your cancer treatment. Get proper help – or the cancer will kill you. There is no success.
Tenpenny should not be practicing medicine. Fact. She is not qualified. You can stick your US health system qualifications up your kyber. They are worthless. She wouldn’t last five seconds in a proper health system like ours in Australia. And we use vaccines and properly and when injuries occur they are properly dealt with, including doctors getting sued and Big Pharma copping fines as well.
You are brainwashed. You don’t know what you’re talking about. Not a single school is corrupted by Big Pharma, anywhere in the world. You are a conspiracy theorist and you try to spread your lies through a pseudonym. I have the guts to put my real name here. What about you? I know why. The minute the world sees your real name you’ll be on a one way trip to the funny farm.
Seeing how you’re from Australia, you obviously have no idea how the medical system works here. Dr. Tenpenny *is* in fact a doctor of medicine and if you had any intelligence in your brain, you would have read that in the link I provided to Wiki. She did NOT go to Australia to practice medicine. She was INVITED to *speak* there by YOUR citizens while she was there on vacation. It’s called free speech here in America…
And just how do you know I’m lying about my cancer? Are you me? Have you seen my test results? Have you been around me for the last three years while I’ve successfully treated myself? Hm….nope, I didn’t think so. I’m sure you can imagine where I think you can stick your ASSumptions and opinions. I’m doing just fine on my own, I assure you. Only brainwashed idiots think cancer is an automatic death sentence if they don’t have conventional therapies done…. ๐
I’m a cancer survivor, through conventional methods – so don’t give me that tripe.
And Tenpenny was invited to speak by ONE PERSON ONLY – and that bitch has a lot to answer for, not just for trying that stunt but also for calling the measles “marvellous”. The speeches were practicing medicine – that is, giving medical advice. The instant she did that if she had got here, she would have been deported.
I have more intelligence in my pinkie than you have in your whole body. Fact – Tenpenny is only recognised as a doctor in the system that you yourself admitted was bad. In a good system (like ours) she would not be. Get that through your thick head and be consistent.
Wikipedia is not a reliable source.
For one thing, osteopaths are recognized as medical doctors in *65 countries*, not just the USA, so your comment only shows that you’re clueless about the degree. Practicing medicine means that you have an office and you are treating patients, so obviously you’re clueless about what that entails, too. Unsurprisingly, of course. The only time Wiki isn’t a reliable source is when you’re looking for information on “alternative” things like cancer treatments and free energy. They also paint GMOs in a very biased and positive light, which is inaccurate. For everything else, they’re not too bad.
I really don’t care that you survived your conventional cancer treatments. Congratulations on not dying right away from conventional oncology. That has NOTHING to do with the fact that it can be done without conventional therapies, and the fact that I *am* doing it without chemo and radiation–and this is after having strokes and encephalitis for 7 years from an injury, and while dealing with ankylosing spondylitis. I’m sorry that you’re not capable or intelligent enough to do what I’m doing, but that’s really your problem. The fact that I *am* doing this and doing it alone shows that you don’t, in fact, “have more intelligence in your pinkie finger” than I do in my whole body. I realize your feelings of inadequacy require you to say such stupid things, though….
I’ll leave you to play with yourself now, Philip. Good luck not getting cancer again in the future after receiving toxic treatments…
Name the 65 countries and I’ll prove that 64 of them don’t – or that the country that does has a health care system that matches the joke of the US. I’ll live longer than you because cancer will kill you as you are not dealing with it. This is proven fact and you have nothing to prove otherwise. I’ve been cancer free for 14 years. Wikipedia is NEVER a reliable source. NEVER.
You can shove your opinions about my cancer where the sun doesn’t shine, little man. Who said I wasn’t “dealing” with my cancer? That’s as far from the truth as anything. Just because I’m not doing chemo and radiation doesn’t mean I’m not doing something (a lot of things, actually). I will probably outlive you because I’m not destroying my immune system and I’m not “curing” myself with highly toxic treatments. The fact that I’ve come this far after 10 years of IPL hell is enough for me. Even if I died tomorrow, I would still be proud of the fact that I’ve made it this far ON MY OWN, because I have enough intelligence and will to keep going after all I’ve been through–and I’ve treated this cancer for 3 years now without puking, losing my hair, or damaging my immune system. Your inability to accept the fact that people can treat themselves for cancer holistically is YOUR problem–not mine. I feel sorry for you because you’re obviously raging with jealousy at the fact that I can do this and you can’t.
You are a VERY small and pathetic person to keep baiting me into conversation. I *almost* feel sorry for you….but not really. Lol. Now go back to your own personal sandbox and play with yourself. You seem to like to hear yourself talk, after all…
You are the one who likes hearing yourself talk. I thought you were done? You are a liar and I exposed you for what you are. You’re just jealous of my superior intelligence and that’s easy because your intellect is so low. Cancer has no treatment except for chemotherapy or radiotherapy. You’d make it a lot further with it. Fact. Oh wait – you’re not interested in fact.
The bad thing about people like you is that you actually believe your own brainwashed thoughts. It’s both pathetic and sad at the same time. You know, jealousy isn’t very becoming on you; you should have that checked out by a shrink or something…
Oh, and if you are so intelligent, you can find the information you seek by yourself, but I won’t hold my breath that you can make your way to the Wiki site and click on the embedded link that would take you there…
You just described yourself admirably. You made the claim, you prove it. I’m not your keeper. And you just proved yet again what a liar you are by even responding. Pinocchio’s got nothing on your beak right now.
I didn’t make the claim; it’s plainly written in the Wiki entry about osteopaths. And the only reason I’m bothering to come back here and argue with someone who obviously can’t think for himself is because you insist on telling me that I’m terminal because I’m not doing chemo and radiation. You couldn’t be further from the truth and I *will* argue with you about that to show people just how ignorant you are. I’m quite *obviously* treating myself successfully for cancer or I wouldn’t be here to argue with a dipwad such as yourself…Now be a good troll and crawl back under your rock with your flu vaccines.
No you’re not. You’re a liar. You don’t know what you’re doing and you never will. You’re terminal because you are not treating the cancer at all. Proven fact. You can’t say otherwise because there is NO other treatment for cancer. None. You can’t think for yourself because your education is so lacking it’s unreal.
Wikipedia is unreliable.
Now be a good conspiracy theorist and crawl back under your rock with your paranoia.
ROFLMAO. Only a feeble-minded person with an acute inability to think for themselves would spout such drivel. Just how do you know I’m not treating my cancer? Do you live with me? Do you pay my bills? Have you been sitting here with me for 3 years watching me? How would you know what kind of education I have? Have you been spying on me for 10 years? LOL!! You’re a brainwashed idiot, especially if you think there are no cures for cancer other than conventional oncology. There are MANY people who would disagree with you and I’m just one of them…
Oh, and my cancer tests also disagree with you, and they don’t lie…Nice try, though, moron.
You are lying. I know you’re not treating your cancer because you aren’t getting khemo or radiotherapy. That’s not brainwashed. That’s proven fact. I’m clear thanks to radiotherapy. You are not. Cancer tests? You’re lying about that as well. You can say all you want – anyone with an ounce of common sense will be siding with me on this. The only ones who agree with you are just as dumb as you are. The worst thing about all of this is you’ll never know that you were wrong, because you’ll die well before I do – from cancer, because you aren’t treating it properly and with respect.
Funny – I thought you weren’t going to waste any more of your time with me. That’s further proof that you are a liar if any be needed.
I already told you that I will spend a modicum amount of time coming up against an idiot like you who thinks that the only way to treat cancer in a person is by poisoning them or nuking them with radiation. YOU are lying about that and I will NOT let it rest without correcting you.
Are you really so stupid that you don’t know that there are cancer tests out there? LOL!! Of course you are. After all, you “believe” that only conventional oncology will help anyone….ROFLMAO.
Not only are you an idiot, you’re also a very cruel person to say such things to someone. You are a disgrace to humanity. Congratulations.
Now if you don’t want to hear anything more from me then stop replying with your uneducated drivel. I really don’t care that you can’t learn anything new on your own and that you think cancer can’t be controlled by anything but conventional oncology. That really is your problem. Nothing you say will change the fact that I’ve kept mine under control for 3 years now with my own self-treatments and I’m doing much better–all without “khemo” or radiation. I haven’t puked once, I haven’t lost my hair, I haven’t gotten any radiation poisoning or burns, and I’ve never had to avoid going out in public from a damaged immune system. Can you say the same for the treatments you had? Not likely, eh.
You know what I think? I think you’re just jealous because you DID have to go through hell to give yourself a few extra years and I haven’t had to do that…
Jealous? How can I be jealous of a bona fide liar? I CAN say the same for the treatment I had. So stick that up your kyber. You haven’t kept yours under control. You’re dying and you’re too stupid to realise it, and you think you know better than trained doctors in the field. That’s the epitome of deception and the Dunning-Kruger Effect. So keep on coming in and correcting me if you want. All you’re doing is making yourself look like the idiot you are and the liar that you are. I’m perfectly happy to keep pointing that out. You said you had nothing further to say to me and this is now the umpteenth time you’ve lied about that – so how can anyone else believe you?
Keep it up if you want. I’ll keep pointing the same thing out. If that makes me cruel then you have a serious comprehension issue. It’s never cruel to point out a liar who is harming themselves and giving out advice that harms others in effect.
You can wish me dead all you want, jerk-off. That won’t change a thing; it will only put bad karma on your head that you’ll eventually have to deal with. And I sincerely hope it bites you in the arse *really* hard. You don’t know a friggin thing about me or the treatments that I’ve been using. I DO know because I have been doing my research, I have been doing my treatments, I have been keeping track of my progress with cancer tests, and I have my own proof that I’m doing better *without* the aid of “khemo” and radiation. You calling me a liar and wishing me dead isn’t going to change a damn thing about my situation, so take your insults and your hexes somewhere else.
And how many times do I have to tell you that if you keep replying to me about this subject that I will keep replying back to you as long as I deem fit? That means in plain English that I changed my mind once you started flapping on about my cancer and how YOU think I’m a dead person. *Obviously* I’m NOT dead, so you’re the fool here. You are so friggin stupid that you can’t even understand those simple points.
Again, if you want to stop this conversation, all you have to do is shut your idiotic uneducated mouth and we’ll be all done here. But I guess that’s too simple for you to grasp, too. Either that or you’re so completely pathetic that you have nothing better to do with your time than diss people who are more intelligent and capable than you. It is *quite* clear that you don’t know a damn thing about cancer or treatment alternatives, so your comments are just useless drivel and I hope everyone recognizes that. Just because YOU believe what you say doesn’t make it true, thank goodness.
If you had an *ounce* of intelligence in you then you would know that there are *multiple* natural substances in this world which are anti-cancerous, and you would know what causes cancer to start with. But you don’t know *any* of those things. Instead, you keep parroting the same thing over and over and over again as if it was true. ROFLMAO. I’m SO glad I’m not an idiot like you or I *would* be dead by now…
I never wished you dead. You are doing a great job of that yourself without me saying any such thing. Research from Google University doesn’t count. You are not a trained professional so no you don’t know what you are doing. I’m not going to shut up because the truth can never be silenced – and I’m telling it. If YOU had any intelligence you would know that there are NO anti cancerous substances, otherwise we would be close to a cure by now and we are NOT!
It takes an idiot and only an idiot to carry on like you do and not realise when you are beaten. I am telling the truth and you can’t change that. You are the one who needs to walk away with as much dignity as you have left (if you have any left that is).
ROFLMAO. I most certainly have NOT been beaten down by you, and your opinions have NO bearing on my success. You’re just jealous that I DO in fact have enough education to treat myself successfully for cancer *without* help from doctors. I really don’t care if you don’t think it can be done; I’m living proof that it can be, and that’s all that matters to me.
You have got to be the dumbest person I’ve come across in a *very* long time. The world is FULL of anti-cancerous substances; too many to even name here. There is TONS of scientific research proving this fact beyond a doubt. One only needs to do the homework to find it, and that’s something you’re unable to do, obviously. Your ignorance about this subject is only helping to dig your own grave and I find it quite amusing.
Just the fact that you don’t even know what causes cancer shows that you’re an uneducated blow-hard. Many of the things I take are for nutritional deficiencies because deficiencies are one of the main causes for cancer. Many things I take are to treat pathogens because pathogens are another major contributor to the weakening of the body’s defenses. I also take many things to help with detoxification because toxins are the other main reason why people succumb to cancer. Cancer is NOT caused by lack of “khemo drugs” or radiation, little guy. Get that through your head first and foremost.
Again, I *almost* feel sorry for you, but not too much. Your blindness and inability to use critical thinking is obviously your fault. Unless, of course, you were dropped on your head as a child. Repeatedly. I’m beginning to think that’s part of your problem, really…
You were the one dropped on your head when you were a child. You’re so stupid you think you’re smart just because you were educated at Google University and that makes you a better professional than real professionals. Real professionals will tell you that there are NO anti cancerous substances in the world. That is a huge lie and I notice that you didn’t name one in your defence. I never said cancer was caused by the lack of khemo or radiotherapy. It has multiple causes and if you had actually done any proper research you would know that. Had you also done any proper research you would be undergoing the conventional therapy. There is no evidence of any success – other than your word, and that is worthless in any sufferer of the Dunning-Kruger Effect like you. I trust the experts, the trained medical personnel. You, a punch drunk idiot who doesn’t know when they’re beaten, don’t even rate a mention.
I can hardly be jealous of a person like that. If anything you are jealous of me because I am a cancer survivor – by the very same conventional method that you are poo-pooing.
Yawn…..please let us know if you ever have something important or intelligent to say, little guy…
You wouldn’t know anything important or intelligent if you tripped over it, little girl.
I’m afraid so, and I haven’t seen anything like that from you. Ever.
Thank you for confirming your total lack of intelligence. And comprehension.
I’m sorry, did someone say something? No? I didn’t think so…
Oh that was mature – not.
Good for you, calling out this creepy troll and the others on here. They come on to these articles like fleas on a dog with their propaganda lies.
Vaccines do not make a profit. Fact. So much for your $$$ BS.
Pharmaceutical companies are NOT giving their drugs away for free; therefore, they ARE making a profit, no matter whether it comes directly from the people or indirectly from the people (through government healthcare which YOU pay into with your taxes). So much for *your* BS.
They are giving them away at cost so there is no profit. You obviously don’t understand business any more than you understand vaccines. It costs to create the vaccines, right? What do they get back from subsidies? The cost of creation. Profit margin? ZERO! So much for YOUR BS.
Where do you pull this disinformation from? Your arse? Where is the evidence that pharmaceutical companies aren’t making a profit from vaccines? Did your boss tell you to say that? Lol. You’ll have to do better than that. I expect links to financial statements from all vaccine manufacturers, if you don’t mind.
I do mind – when I’m talking to someone who totally lacks common sense. Explain this to me. If they were making profits from vaccines why aren’t they exporting them the third world countries themselves? For the record, I have no bosses.
If you can’t prove that they’re not making a profit, then your statements that they don’t are just full of hot air and nothing more. I know very well that drugs make more money than vaccines, but that doesn’t mean they’re not making *anything* off of them. They do prefer the profits of drugs, but they also like to make vaccines because they are protected from being sued over their damages.
Bye, bye now, little guy. Have fun in your very own private sandbox where you will no doubt continue to think you have something relevant to say…
I’ll let you have the last words in all these comments because I’m done wasting time on you and your drivel. Don’t expect me to reply to you again, no matter how much you fish for responses. ๐
You have to prove they do make a profit from vaccines, and you CAN’T. That’s the fact here. Asking me to prove a negative is another aspect that proves your lack of intelligence.
Another TROLL!
Look who’s talking.
This is a poorly written clickbait. All untrue, naturally. But I guess this is how you get paid, Jeffery Jaxxen? What did you get for smearing some citizens who want to keep shysters like Tenpenny and Messenger from endangering people’s health..a couple of bucks?
Just knob off, Mate.
I take it you’re one of the jerks who threatened the lives of people (including babies) because you’re brainwashed into thinking that vaccines are the end-all-be-all of disease prevention? Or are you just a pharma-troll being paid to say such stupid things?
You’re the troll threatening the lives of the next generation with that rubbish laden diatribe. Vaccines are the best preventatives we have, and you can’t prove otherwise.
ROFLMAO. Idiots like you crack me up. But don’t let me stop you from shooting yourself up with all the latest and greatest vaccines. ๐
And I’ll live longer than you will as a result.
Not likely, dude…The last I heard, a woman and a small child here in the states just died from the flu that they had just been vaccinated for. So….good luck with your annual flu shot. Lol.
Because not enough around them were vaccinated that’s why. Not the vaccine’s fault. People like you are at fault for lying.
You can’t actually comprehend, can you? What part of “they died of the disease they got vaccinated for” didn’t you understand? They GOT THEIR SHOTS, and IT FAILED THEM. You really are pathetic.
Herd immunity. Look it up.
I have. It works very well in natural immunity…
And of course, your foolish reply has NOTHING to do with the fact that those people died from the disease that they were vaccinated for, but I understand your need for deflection. I’ve heard/seen it a few hundred times from the mouths of trolls. If they didn’t deflect, they wouldn’t get paid. So yeah, I completely understand why you need to keep up your charade. ๐
That goes to show you don’t understand herd immunity. Try again.
Again with the deflection. Herd immunity has NOTHING to do with the fact that people are dying from the very diseases they’re vaccinated against. Your desire to deflect only shows your true lack of intelligence. Congratulations, but you’ll just have to argue with yourself now because I’m done with you.
That’s right, run away from the truth. You don’t understand herd immunity and the lack of it is why people die when vaccinated.
I’ll take a proper sewage system over vaccines. Would you feel safe drinking out of the Ganges river downstream from a city?
Irrelevant. A proper sewage system is not enough. Vaccines are needed on top of it.
Clean drinking water is vital to any communities health. Every hear of Waterborne diseases ? And open sewers aren’t too healthy either.
Vaccines are just as vital. Stop deflecting. Clean water is not the whole answer and never has been. It only plays a part.
a big part watch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXepkIWPhFQ
Ignorance at it’s finest. I repeat – she needs both.
I think this little girl needs clean water more than vaccines
She needs both.
Lets ask her what is more important?
Correct your story please. The bomb threat came from a Tenpenny SUPPORTER, not a pro vaxxer. The threat was to a venue to ensure the seminar went ahead and wasn’t cancelled. There were no threats of any violence from the pro vaccine side. None.
Exactly correct. There is not one natural, organic, edible food that can replace what vaccinations do, such as cause death, autism, diabetes, upper respiratory problems, a very compromised immune system that cannot fight off even a simple cold. Noting can replace vaccinations for the furtherance of the genocide goal. You slipped up there troll, you told a truth.
And you just lied through your back teeth, troll. Vaccines by themselves have not caused one single death. Autism is genetic and diabetes has another source entirely. Need I go on?
If autism is genetic, why are the rates increasing so rapidly?
Better diagnostics. That started with the DSM-IV.
At the mention of website orthomolecular, real doctors, real science, Pig pHARMafia sends in their troll brigade to have the comment removed for FEAR the people will find out the TRUTH about their deadly product vaccine$$$, protected by gubmint against lawsuits for harm and death by vaccine. So here’s my ‘removed’ comment:
The curing properties of high dose Vitamin C for VIRUSES and toxins has been known since 1935.Claus W. Jungeblut M.D., was the first (real) scientist to discover the healing properties of high dose Ascorbate Vitamin C, and unequivocally stated that “Vitamin C can truthfully be designated as the ANTITOXIN and ANTIVIRAL vitamin”. Claus W. Jungeblut has directly influenced the course of every orthomolecular practitioner, and earned the thanks of every patient whose health, and life, has been saved by high dose ascorbate vitamin C therapy.
“Vitamin C and Polio, The Forgotten Research of Claus W. Jungeblut M.D.”
“First, DO NO HARM” – Hippocrates
Vaccines do no harm (when used correctly).
If they are so safe, why do they need special legal protection?
Because there are doctors who won’t use them properly.
follow the money of these Va$$ine Indu$tries and their pimps in Government …………
Political donations……..obtaining and securing agendas.
Wake up call to all those poor ignorant people who think it’s health to inject toxic, neurotoxic and carcinogenic and other ‘ingredients/matter’ into your babies and children.
Vaccines Market worth $57.8 Billion by 2019
By PR Newswire
January 26, 2015
DALLAS, January 26, 2015 /PRNewswire/ —
According to the new market research report The “Vaccine Market by Technology (Live Attenuated, Toxoid, Conjugate, Subunit, Synthetic, Dendritic Cell, Inactivated), Type (Preventive, Therapeutic), End User (Pediatrics, Adults), Disease Indication (Infectious Disease, Cancer, Allergy) – Forecasts to 2019”, published by MarketsandMarkets, The global Vaccines Market is expected to reach $57,885.4 Million by 2019 from $33,140.6 Million in 2014, at a CAGR of 11.8% from 2014 to 2019.
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Unreliable source. Try again.
Aside from the actual vaccine controversy which is very important, and I apologize for changing the subject…but, does anyone see the “irony” in this report? Anyone?
The speaking appearances were cancelled because “pro-vaccine extremists” called for violence and made bomb threats? WTF?
Are there really those who are so “pro-vaccine”, that they would resort to violence, really? If you’re vaccinated then you have nothing to worry about, right? Yeah?
Seems to me that the proper term isn’t “pro-vaccine extremists”, it should actually be “trolls”.
What if the opposite had happened (anti-vaccine/pro-vaccine doctor)? Say, here in the USA?
Can you imagine the “brouhaha” that would ensue? OMG!
Leading the charge…the pharma lawyers. Secondary line, the FDA. AMA, and the APA.
Flanking both sides…the DHS and FBI, because they’re possibly, most likely, probably terrorists.
Manning the lines at the rear, the special interest organizations…just in case someone was discriminated against, or insulted.
Anti-vaccine people are considered “wackos”, just because of their beliefs.
So, if pro-vaccine believers use violence, are they also “wackos”, or could they be considered instead as, the new saviors (holding a sickle in one hand and a hammer in the other) of humankind?
What irony!
Dr. Tenpenny, keep up the great work!
It wasn’t a pro vaccine campaigner that issued the bomb threat. It was an anti vaccine campaigner trying to prevent a venue cancelling. A Tenpenny SUPPORTER did it. One of YOUR lot!
Now all they have to do is look up het videos on YouTube and share with the curious public
And get nowhere if one wants the truth about vaccines.
And vaccines are better at prevention, not as a replacement but as the difference between better prevention and ordinary prevention.