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	<title>Comments on: Breaking: Fluoride Linked to #1 Cause of Death in New Research</title>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://naturalsociety.com/breaking-fluoride-linked-to-1-cause-of-death-in-new-research/#comment-99975</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2012 03:35:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;We must eliminate 350,000 people a day&quot;--Jacques Costeau, UNESCO Courier. Milk, sugar, tobacco and wars, all subsidized killers. google any suspected substance with the word hazard. Google stevia with side effects.</description>
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		<title>By: Curious</title>
		<link>http://naturalsociety.com/breaking-fluoride-linked-to-1-cause-of-death-in-new-research/#comment-98300</link>
		<dc:creator>Curious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2012 18:07:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Skeptikalvegan looks defeated,   I challenged his credentials in science since he insisted on being always right and being pretentiously rude and dismissive of people and he couldn&#039;t answer. that was about a month ago and no answer back!  he just tried to use feeble shill tactics like turning the question back around and trying to bait my personal info.  Look at the last thread btw me and HIm( her) around feb 24th . I think he just wanted to lure people to the site he kept promoting or maybe he is a info baiting plant , or just another annoying little man who can only act rude and tough behind a keyboard, who knows , Funny how he called Gucciardi out and criticized him for not &quot;pony&quot; ing up but he does the same.And NO im not impressed you post a &quot;real&quot; name , again if thats your true info thats just plain stupid!!!  Once again proof that its hard to find actual facts on forums and online articles.
  THink for yourself folks! do some real research and trust your own instincts OVER ALL OTHER THINGS its what God armed you with  especially now in these ever trying times. You have a right to beleive in what you feel is right, even skepticalvegan has that right, just not the right to insist and rudely attack others based on those feelings. we are given free will to choose and think for ourselves and a gov putting harmfull toxins in our water stifles that free will. 
  So whether you beleive in Flouride or not it should be our right to agree to have it or not, True, if the intension was to &quot;help our teeth&quot; by putting flouride in our drinking water then warn us of the dangers or give us the option and info on how to filter it out if we dont want it ( i use a reverse osmosis filter myself)  or maybe offer a flouride additive we can use ourselves , there must be a better option than just inducing us without our knowledge of its potential harms. 
  SO skepticalveagn or jaime or whatever your real name is, good luck in your journey and i wish you well and hope you have some peace and growth for yourself and like i sadi in the last thread if you want to teach people or try to influence them (regarless or being right or wrong) try to offer your opinion not insist on it.
God Bless Us all!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Skeptikalvegan looks defeated,   I challenged his credentials in science since he insisted on being always right and being pretentiously rude and dismissive of people and he couldn&#8217;t answer. that was about a month ago and no answer back!  he just tried to use feeble shill tactics like turning the question back around and trying to bait my personal info.  Look at the last thread btw me and HIm( her) around feb 24th . I think he just wanted to lure people to the site he kept promoting or maybe he is a info baiting plant , or just another annoying little man who can only act rude and tough behind a keyboard, who knows , Funny how he called Gucciardi out and criticized him for not &#8220;pony&#8221; ing up but he does the same.And NO im not impressed you post a &#8220;real&#8221; name , again if thats your true info thats just plain stupid!!!  Once again proof that its hard to find actual facts on forums and online articles.<br />
  THink for yourself folks! do some real research and trust your own instincts OVER ALL OTHER THINGS its what God armed you with  especially now in these ever trying times. You have a right to beleive in what you feel is right, even skepticalvegan has that right, just not the right to insist and rudely attack others based on those feelings. we are given free will to choose and think for ourselves and a gov putting harmfull toxins in our water stifles that free will.<br />
  So whether you beleive in Flouride or not it should be our right to agree to have it or not, True, if the intension was to &#8220;help our teeth&#8221; by putting flouride in our drinking water then warn us of the dangers or give us the option and info on how to filter it out if we dont want it ( i use a reverse osmosis filter myself)  or maybe offer a flouride additive we can use ourselves , there must be a better option than just inducing us without our knowledge of its potential harms.<br />
  SO skepticalveagn or jaime or whatever your real name is, good luck in your journey and i wish you well and hope you have some peace and growth for yourself and like i sadi in the last thread if you want to teach people or try to influence them (regarless or being right or wrong) try to offer your opinion not insist on it.<br />
God Bless Us all!</p>
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		<title>By: bogtrotter</title>
		<link>http://naturalsociety.com/breaking-fluoride-linked-to-1-cause-of-death-in-new-research/#comment-98249</link>
		<dc:creator>bogtrotter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2012 21:31:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any medical professional or government official having access to any recent studies as to the benefits or as to the harmful effects, and still promotes the use of flouride as an additive to public water consumption needs to be discredited, humiliated and then fatally executed in full world view.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any medical professional or government official having access to any recent studies as to the benefits or as to the harmful effects, and still promotes the use of flouride as an additive to public water consumption needs to be discredited, humiliated and then fatally executed in full world view.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Carlson</title>
		<link>http://naturalsociety.com/breaking-fluoride-linked-to-1-cause-of-death-in-new-research/#comment-97971</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Carlson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Mar 2012 05:45:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I noticed that when it rains the flowers seem to jump up but when I used city water they hardly grew. I put a carbon filter on the hose and behold the filtered city water made them jump. It was the chlorine and fluoride in the water that held the flowers from growing. wwwhoaxofthecenturycom</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I noticed that when it rains the flowers seem to jump up but when I used city water they hardly grew. I put a carbon filter on the hose and behold the filtered city water made them jump. It was the chlorine and fluoride in the water that held the flowers from growing. wwwhoaxofthecenturycom</p>
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		<title>By: jmeaux7</title>
		<link>http://naturalsociety.com/breaking-fluoride-linked-to-1-cause-of-death-in-new-research/#comment-96378</link>
		<dc:creator>jmeaux7</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Feb 2012 20:44:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I appreciate your inquiry into the issue at hand.  I agree with your attitude that one should always question the logic of arguments such as these.

From my assessment of the latest research, I have concluded that fluoride exposure in the body not only decreases IQ in children, but also causes accumulation of fluoride in the Pineal Gland.

Dr. Phyllis Mullenix is a leading researcher who has demonstrated links between neurotoxicity and fluoride exposure in very conclusive animal studies.  There have also been 16 IQ studies published to date which look at the link between water fluoridation and reduced IQ.  

Since I would prefer if no one here took my comments at face value, I will post links to this information below.  (Fluoride Alert Website does an excellent job of organizing information on water fluoridation.  I suggest everyone explore their website when they have time.)

http://www.fluoridealert.org/pmullenix.htm
http://www.fluoridealert.org/health/brain/#human</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I appreciate your inquiry into the issue at hand.  I agree with your attitude that one should always question the logic of arguments such as these.</p>
<p>From my assessment of the latest research, I have concluded that fluoride exposure in the body not only decreases IQ in children, but also causes accumulation of fluoride in the Pineal Gland.</p>
<p>Dr. Phyllis Mullenix is a leading researcher who has demonstrated links between neurotoxicity and fluoride exposure in very conclusive animal studies.  There have also been 16 IQ studies published to date which look at the link between water fluoridation and reduced IQ.  </p>
<p>Since I would prefer if no one here took my comments at face value, I will post links to this information below.  (Fluoride Alert Website does an excellent job of organizing information on water fluoridation.  I suggest everyone explore their website when they have time.)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.fluoridealert.org/pmullenix.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.fluoridealert.org/pmullenix.htm</a><br />
<a href="http://www.fluoridealert.org/health/brain/#human" rel="nofollow">http://www.fluoridealert.org/health/brain/#human</a></p>
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		<title>By: nosoupforyou</title>
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		<dc:creator>nosoupforyou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Feb 2012 07:18:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: curious</title>
		<link>http://naturalsociety.com/breaking-fluoride-linked-to-1-cause-of-death-in-new-research/#comment-96150</link>
		<dc:creator>curious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Feb 2012 01:53:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well done trying to turn the tables again , nice little tactic but again your hypocritical. I never said it was my forum nor did i attack people  for questioning me. i NEVER asked for your personal info, like you did of me, i only asked , again nicely and respectfully to cite what credentials you have scientifically because i was curious since you perceive to be and expert even though you wont say it. and regardless if you cited other articles as your &quot;proof&quot; or sources you still are condescending and insulting to people on here AND no one has been more dismissive of people on this thread than you. And yes you do attack Gucciardi and call him out . I have read the article and I agree its questionable but the point was more about asking you what gives you the right to write the things you have against some people on here?  Again its easy to be snide and insulting behind a keyboard isnt it? I really doubt you&#039;d have the stones to do it to peoples faces , and no I&#039;m not impressed you posted your real name ( supposedly) , its not very smart for someone who knows internet 101. If you really cared about science and truth and educating people who spread misinformation or spread panic via unreliable articles, then you should be less insulting and offer your opinion not insist on it, because it is only your opinion. To your own admission your no more qualified than Gucciardi or reliable in your sources. again if you want to be taken seriously then tell us why you and your info should be considered superior to anyone else that has posted. and THAT is &quot;addressing the actual information presented&quot;  because if Gucciardi can post an article that  &quot;mass fluoride exposure may be to blame for the cardiovascular disease epidemic&quot; based on flouride usage in PET scans then what stops you or anyone else posting on here from spreading misinformation based on opinion only?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well done trying to turn the tables again , nice little tactic but again your hypocritical. I never said it was my forum nor did i attack people  for questioning me. i NEVER asked for your personal info, like you did of me, i only asked , again nicely and respectfully to cite what credentials you have scientifically because i was curious since you perceive to be and expert even though you wont say it. and regardless if you cited other articles as your &#8220;proof&#8221; or sources you still are condescending and insulting to people on here AND no one has been more dismissive of people on this thread than you. And yes you do attack Gucciardi and call him out . I have read the article and I agree its questionable but the point was more about asking you what gives you the right to write the things you have against some people on here?  Again its easy to be snide and insulting behind a keyboard isnt it? I really doubt you&#8217;d have the stones to do it to peoples faces , and no I&#8217;m not impressed you posted your real name ( supposedly) , its not very smart for someone who knows internet 101. If you really cared about science and truth and educating people who spread misinformation or spread panic via unreliable articles, then you should be less insulting and offer your opinion not insist on it, because it is only your opinion. To your own admission your no more qualified than Gucciardi or reliable in your sources. again if you want to be taken seriously then tell us why you and your info should be considered superior to anyone else that has posted. and THAT is &#8220;addressing the actual information presented&#8221;  because if Gucciardi can post an article that  &#8220;mass fluoride exposure may be to blame for the cardiovascular disease epidemic&#8221; based on flouride usage in PET scans then what stops you or anyone else posting on here from spreading misinformation based on opinion only?</p>
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		<title>By: SkepticalVegan</title>
		<link>http://naturalsociety.com/breaking-fluoride-linked-to-1-cause-of-death-in-new-research/#comment-96132</link>
		<dc:creator>SkepticalVegan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2012 18:59:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;warrant proof of your science backround.&quot;

No, because I havnt cited myself as a scientific papers. Ive cited scientific articles and resources that cite scientific papers.
The relevant is in the information and arguments presented, if you cant attack them without attacking the person instead then you don&#039;t have an argument.
For example I dont know what Gucciardi&#039;s education is, I don&#039;t really care because its not relevant or necessary to know to analysis the contents of the above article.
I don&#039;t think I&#039;m an expert, I&#039;m just point out something that is pretty obvious if you read the original paper.

&quot;And NO I dont put my personal info on open forums, im not stupid&quot;
Then why would you as me to do it? Look most of us learn internet security 101

&quot;AGAIN this isnt YOUR forum to make the rules as to how someone has to ” pony up”&quot;
and its not YOUR forum either (you are not Gucciardi are you?) to make rules or demand that other post personal info that you yourself recognize would be stupid to post

how about addressing the actual information presented and stop look for personal reasons to dismiss people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;warrant proof of your science backround.&#8221;</p>
<p>No, because I havnt cited myself as a scientific papers. Ive cited scientific articles and resources that cite scientific papers.<br />
The relevant is in the information and arguments presented, if you cant attack them without attacking the person instead then you don&#8217;t have an argument.<br />
For example I dont know what Gucciardi&#8217;s education is, I don&#8217;t really care because its not relevant or necessary to know to analysis the contents of the above article.<br />
I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;m an expert, I&#8217;m just point out something that is pretty obvious if you read the original paper.</p>
<p>&#8220;And NO I dont put my personal info on open forums, im not stupid&#8221;<br />
Then why would you as me to do it? Look most of us learn internet security 101</p>
<p>&#8220;AGAIN this isnt YOUR forum to make the rules as to how someone has to ” pony up”&#8221;<br />
and its not YOUR forum either (you are not Gucciardi are you?) to make rules or demand that other post personal info that you yourself recognize would be stupid to post</p>
<p>how about addressing the actual information presented and stop look for personal reasons to dismiss people.</p>
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		<title>By: curious</title>
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		<dc:creator>curious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2012 17:05:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This isnt shill baiting Im asking an honest question which your avoiding, And I asked it nicely and non-defensively but your response is consistent with your own defensive tactic that has been present on this thread from the beggining. Your responses to most people on here have been snide, condescending and inflammatory, It&#039;s easy to be that way behind a keyboard isnt it? I wonder if your that way to people in person you disagree with. Whether Gucciardi is correct or not is an honest and viable debate but attacking people in the manner you have because YOU declare their information is wrong or inferior to yours does warrant proof of your science backround. NOW...Since you insist on perceiving your self as an expert on science and arrogantly and pretentiously Insisting that everyone on here who disagrees with you or has other knowledge of this topic is wrong IT IS relevant, funny how you set your own set of rules as to how these debates and argument should be run. And NO I dont put my personal info on open forums, im not stupid. AGAIN  this isnt YOUR forum to make the rules as to how someone has to &quot; pony up&quot; to ask an honest and pertinent question of someone who is declaring themselves to have a &quot; passion for science&quot;. Your defensiveness only makes you look less qualified to act like an expert than you are. 
Come off your high horse &quot;jaime&quot;  and tell us why your qualified to tell everyone how wrong they are and your the only one who could possibly be correct about everything on this thread.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This isnt shill baiting Im asking an honest question which your avoiding, And I asked it nicely and non-defensively but your response is consistent with your own defensive tactic that has been present on this thread from the beggining. Your responses to most people on here have been snide, condescending and inflammatory, It&#8217;s easy to be that way behind a keyboard isnt it? I wonder if your that way to people in person you disagree with. Whether Gucciardi is correct or not is an honest and viable debate but attacking people in the manner you have because YOU declare their information is wrong or inferior to yours does warrant proof of your science backround. NOW&#8230;Since you insist on perceiving your self as an expert on science and arrogantly and pretentiously Insisting that everyone on here who disagrees with you or has other knowledge of this topic is wrong IT IS relevant, funny how you set your own set of rules as to how these debates and argument should be run. And NO I dont put my personal info on open forums, im not stupid. AGAIN  this isnt YOUR forum to make the rules as to how someone has to &#8221; pony up&#8221; to ask an honest and pertinent question of someone who is declaring themselves to have a &#8221; passion for science&#8221;. Your defensiveness only makes you look less qualified to act like an expert than you are.<br />
Come off your high horse &#8220;jaime&#8221;  and tell us why your qualified to tell everyone how wrong they are and your the only one who could possibly be correct about everything on this thread.</p>
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		<title>By: SkepticalVegan</title>
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		<dc:creator>SkepticalVegan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2012 04:52:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yes, I&#039;m a in favor of levels of fluoridation to 0.7 ppm.
As far as the other questions, they are actually irrelevant to the argument. Stop shill baiting or pony up all your personal info.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes, I&#8217;m a in favor of levels of fluoridation to 0.7 ppm.<br />
As far as the other questions, they are actually irrelevant to the argument. Stop shill baiting or pony up all your personal info.</p>
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